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Recieved: 2004/11/16 19:54
Subject: RE: [K-list] Intimacy and Connection
From: Diamondsutra
On 2004/11/16 19:54, Diamondsutra posted thus to the K-list:
Speaking from my own experience, I as woman in my tantrik lovemaking, am
not dominant. I am the receiver. Man gives to me and I receive and
acknowledge his love. He gives and gives and gives and we both find at some
point that although he is the giver of pleasure, the pleasure spills over and
he begins to receive. It is very important for him not to lose consciousness
as the pleasure of collecting with his divine phallus (which is what a loving
penis becomes in the act of loving) the divine energies from the loved womb
of woman, beyond her many, many orgasms.
Because I remain conscious and eye to eye connected with my lover, because
I remain in a state of ever increasing love (such as a mother might
experience with a new-born child) I am able to keep the 'self" out of such
loving and then I am not "in it" for the selfish pleasure of it but to bring
more love into me, into the man and then onto the earth. In this experience
love, as I know it to be , between the two lovers, is not a feeling.
Sensation, however, can be excruciatingly pleasurable and as it is very
prolonged (sometimes 3 hours or more at a time) it is an exquisite, nearly
unbearable miracle that both remain conscious and do not pass out. Of
course, this is only possible when a man is not plagued with premature orgasm
and can make love for hours on end, and very often days, without coming.
Coming in man, is not the goal of such love-making. In fact, for such
love making to be, there can be no goal.
In my experience woman waits for man who can take her complete surrender,
in which circumstance she can take all a man has to give and in her supreme
and conscious state of beauty she exudes all man lives for.
This is my experience and not to be compared at all with normal sex or
anything at all to do with sex. This to me is love and the making of love
between man and woman, the female and male principal on earth.
I wonder what would be your explanation of the word "power" when used to
express that a woman is pure power.
blessings and love, Deesutra
Susan <susanacarlsonATmsn.com> said:
> This may be good companion material to read also:
> http://www.sexuality.org/l/tantra/dinutant.html
>
> In Tantric practice, the woman is dominant, active and the man is
> passive, receiver. This is a reflection of the Shiva Shakti play as
> Shiva is the presence of Consciousness, the platform on which Shakti
> dances as the power of cosmic energy.
>
> When a woman embodies Shakti she is pure power indeed and can be
> startling for a man to observe and experience in the beginning.
>
> Roaring at the Sun...
>
> Speaking from my own experiences.
>
> Susan
>
> Susan A. Carlson, BSN RN
> ::Intuitive Coaching for Spiritual Emergence::
> Enlightenment is a Biological Process
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antoine Carré [mailto:antoine.carreATsympatico.ca]
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 3:00 PM
> To: DruoutATaol.com; diamondsutraATnetidea.com;
> k-listATKundalini-Gateway.org
> Subject: Re: [K-list] Intimacy and Connection
>
> The sexual power of a woman is to often something society wants to hide.
> I just love those hyperdrive...
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/antoine.carre/femalepower/
>
> Screaming for you,
> I forget you are just here.
>
> Antoine
>
> _____________
> : Dear Deesutra,
> :
> : One thing is certain, K can cause the libido to go into hyperdrive!
> This
> : can, of course, get confused with desire for companionship and desire
> for
> a mate
> : as well as wanting connection with others. After all, Kundalini is,
> in
> part
> : sexual energy. People seem to have different ways of dealing with
> this,
> but
> : it's not exactly easy!
> :
> : Love, Hillary
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
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