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Recieved: 2004/10/16 06:36
Subject: [K-list] Chelle's last posting
From: romewasntbuiltinadayATjuno.com
On 2004/10/16 06:36, romewasntbuiltinadayATjuno.com posted thus to the K-list:
Chelle wrote:
i asked myself what do i want from god?how do i pray to god?
what am i hoping spiritual enlightenment will bring me..
i realized that i thought god would stop the kaos in my life,and that is madness
because kaos is neccesary for development.
kaos means growth and movement.
kaos is as much god as peace.
EXCELLENT! How do you talk to God? Many ways...chanting, just talking, repetitive prayer, contemplation, meditation, quietness. Don't forget Goddess!
Chelle wrote:
i found myself apon my path being led by the ego after its initial fight during
the stage of seperation,the ego then attached itself to my growth and tried to
be more spiritual than others,
it would say "i'm more enlightened than thee"
it would judge and say i am not there....i am awake...
Don't fight! Don't fear. Don't be angry or depressed. Learn to love and not judge. Find the good in everything in all people. If they murdered someone understand the illness in them and love them. Trust in k. Trust in God/Goddess and you will be guided.
Chelle wrote:
you have to begin the journey of identifying all
the false voices,you have to see into whose
hands you have commended your spirit..other than god.
in order for that to happen you have to experiance
the failure of the human world..the breakdown of the
human world.
without getting through this stage then life often becomes
more difficult and we become lost..we become
depressed we have no energy no meaning we
just drag ourselves along hoping and looking
for signs and lighting candles and omming
into the night..and thinking we are more knowledgable
than another..the ego has a life in modern day spirituality..
its in there telling its spiritual story.
silence in prayer..silence with your practises have
one you share with who doesnt guide you out of
whats happening.
Excellent! Silence is prayer. The depression passes and goes away as does the fear and anger as long as you accept the path of k. The path of God/Goddess.
Chelle wrote:
the first stage of madness is caused by feeling disconnected to the human world
of cause and affect that u have come to trust...your unplugging yourself from
that..the safety net is gone.
your in a place were you need to learn to trust in god that you will be ok
without that net you are ok.
you suddenly really realise i dont trust this human order atall..
Is it such?.....madness being disconnected from the human world? Or could it be that madness IS THE human world with war, hating, killing, rejecting others for the color of their skin or for their religion?
Chelle wrote:
in the contempory world of mystism people
expect a reward
from god for being spiritual..they think they
should be rewarded because they have given up meat or
some other thing...we expect god to behave like the
benelovant father...were looking for the reward of spiritual power
...your looking for the power to have clarity and insight in everything
you do so you never make another mistake..your looking for no
longer a normal partner in life your looking for your soul mate
who is so mysticaly allighned like your perfect self...
you want to be called and seen as mystic for status...
mystism is not a pleasure cruise.
Expect nothing and you shall be surprised! Someone on the list, recently wrote that a great Master accepts no money for services. I beleive this is true. I want nothing. I was born with the gift of insight. That is all I need. It has served me well.
Chelle wrote:
aloneness is neccesary just like being in the dark is needed
so that you can then walk into the light.
Aloneness is what I have felt me entire life. It is as sadness is to happiness. If one did not experience sadness then one could not know the meaning of happiness. Therefore if one did not master aloneness one could not appreciate the oneness of us all.
Chelle wrote:
we are often not comfortable with
aloneness so we avoid it.
For me it is the opposite. It is the UN-comfortableness of always having another within (guru) that bothers me. As I have always been alone and know I have company where you have always had company and are now alone.
Chelle wrote:
what if your task in life is to live a happy sweet life.to show others this
sweet love.?so others can see that..?does it seem too simple?
Yes, I think it could be that simple! Living by example!
Chelle wrote:
and you have to recover from seduction..it says to you..
you deserve better...you can have anything that you want.
and theres many spiritual leaders now who discuss this,
power to have anything and manifest it.
its false..because on one hand you have this voice..
you can have anything you want..and another voice is within
that says...let go of everything and you will find me.
no wonder we go crazy and stray from our path.
Yes, no wonder we feel like we are going crazy. I agree. But the best advice I was ever given was to wait it out. Things do settle down and you do eventually discover which road is yours. I believe that K will make you take the road you are destined to take. K does teach patience to the impatient, morales to the imorale...eventually. It teaches restraint to the over-sexed and sensuality to the fridged. It teaches peace to the angry and fearful and it gives relief from pain to those in pain.... when we decide to surrender. Above all, I think K teaches love to those who were not loved. Basically it answers what ever your problem is.
Chelle wrote:
know that since joining the site i have become more
confused and apon asking myself "why" that was so..i got afew
responses...
one)i didnt like what i thought was real being dismantled by others.
two)i dont want to be conditioned by any human opinion,
Please excuse my bluntness....opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. k isn't about aloneness. It is about oneness. Take my hand and I will gladly walk with you!
Chelle you wrote of pills and your little body. My vice is rum. But that too is subsiding. K will make you stop the pills. You will start to take better care of that little body as I have. It will become strong and hard as mine has. People talk of addiction. I smoked for 25 years and quit with out aids. There is a reason and a purpose to each of our lives as there is a common bond amongst us all.
As I have said time will sort out the madness that you think is upon you. Sometimes reality is so far from what you were taught that you deny it. You cannot accept the truth at this moment. That is if that is what you are seeing. Sometimes illusion is prominent in the beginning and time must pass in order for the dust to settle and we see reality.
Love from my heart to yours dear Chelle!
Rome
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