To: K-list
Recieved: 2004/10/05 12:05
Subject: RE: [K-list] (no subject)
From: Rich
On 2004/10/05 12:05, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Mara,
> Maybe the mind thinking that something has to die,
> keeps the illusion of fear and hope alive.
The death is the 'I'. It has no choice but to die when 'i' stop investing in
it.
Thinking my way out is impossible. Thinking is like regurgitating old crap
like I am doing now.
> Resistance is automatically triggered, and now one is in a battle against
something.
> But isn't it the mind battling the mind, in its own loop of illusion?
I don't see a battle. A battle normally means there are heroes and villains,
winners and losers. My mind often becomes home and the attention I give to
it keeps it running like a machine with predictable responses based on past
programming.
I used to play a game on the computer, where I would send a beam of light
through a maze of mirrors and each time the light would be deflected. I'd
adjust the angle of mirrors so the light would follow a specific path. The
idea was to get the light beam to reach a specific position around the maze.
To me, the mind is sometimes like this. Mirrors reflecting back a response
to my intentions and thoughts. When the mind is pure (without mirrors) there
is no noise, rather direct knowing like the light beam slicing a path
without any interference.
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> One just has to stop buying into their own belief's.
That's your belief!
> Isn't what you wrote just a listing of your own belief's?
Can you tell me?
> Death of the ego...this seems to me to be a belief that duality is real.
As real as 'I' make it.
> It seems to me that the concept of death can > only exist in a world of
duality.
Yes, in non-duality 'I' cannot die as I am already dead.
> Hmm, I wonder why there is so much fear about surrendering, for the ego.
Because the ego is based in fear.
> As soon as the ego hears that word, it goes into defense mode, gets out
the armor, and builds fortresses.
Well look at the content of what is being surrendered and you will see the
resistance in that. It is not always about defence or battles.
> I imagine because it feels attacked-surrender implies that a battle is
taking place, so who wouldn't defend
> themselves?
> Perhaps it'd make more sense, and disengage the ego in an easier way,
> if we used the word yield, or assent, or comply with?
Well words too can form emotional responses tied up with images and symbols.
Have you tried to surrender a word that has emotional responses. Like
ice-cream, television or the body etc.
Sometimes it's enough to have faith and surrender without dialogue.
For me, insights follow *if* there is anything worthwhile to be known.
r
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