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Recieved: 2004/09/19 12:11
Subject: Re: Fw: [K-list] pressure in head - what is it?
From: Lyndon Garvey
On 2004/09/19 12:11, Lyndon Garvey posted thus to the K-list:
Hi,
Thanks for your advice Thomas, it's really helpful.
My experiences are changing each day and today have so far been the most
bizarre. I meditated for an hour using the holosync audios, which
apparently help put the brain in a state of delta by embedded frequencies.
Anyways, this time I felt a pressure on the top of my head it felt as though
someone were pressing me into the chair. Then I started shaking, in fact,
i'm still shaking now. Just like as if i'd had a fever, or something. All
sorts of interesting things happened. My heart was beating like crazy, but
it wasn't from me panicking, I felt as though somethign wanted to erupt and
just went with it as much as possible without trying to induce something to
happen. I felt my legs and arms jumping about a bit, and then I started to
feel as-if my whole head were encased in some kind of energy or something.
I felt it right down teh back of my neck. Then the audious finished, so I
decided to awaken myself. However, I feel as though it could go on for much
longer.
I'm so skeptical and I really don't believe in a lot of what is written, but
there is no denying my experiences and there is no way that i'm consciously
inducing these symptoms. I have lots of links to kundalini yoga etc. and
peoples experiences of kundalini but I really don't want to taint my own
experience. I don't want to follow some 4 step yogic breathing procedure to
raise or control this energy and then find that i'm not in touch with my own
experience.
Still shaking... =)
Best Regards,
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Drewing" <blueoakATsprintmail.com>
To: "Lyndon Garvey" <lyndonAThypnosisforchange.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [K-list] pressure in head - what is it?
> Hi Lyndon,
>
> Although I've only started learning about K formally in the last little
> while, I've been experiencing things for a number of years that I have a
lot
> of faith are described by that system. I'm going to intersperse a few
> thought in your post which are simply my take on it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: K-list-bouncesATkundalini-gateway.org
> > [mailto:K-list-bouncesATkundalini-gateway.org]On Behalf Of Lyndon Garvey
> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:56 AM
> > To: K-listATkundalini-gateway.org
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [K-list] pressure in head - what is it?
>
> > Thanks for your support folks,
> >
> > The pressure is there all the time now, and increases sometimes,
> > like a few
> > minutes ago when I was browsing a website -- so there isn't alwayas a
> > correlation between meditation and pressure in that area.
>
> I've found that these kinds of kinesthetic signals happen quite often when
I
> should be noticing or paying attention to something. Usually something
that
> I have noticed unconsciously, but that I ought to pay attention to
> consciously...perhaps to make a connection...perhaps as a
warning...perhaps
> a chance has arisen for me to do some good....whatever. Its one thing to
> notice these things when one is focusing on a meditation. But, as they
say,
> anyone can do it with no distractions....(sitting on a mountain)....its
> being able to do it in everyday life that is the full expression. Whenever
I
> get a signal such as that, I have trained myself to pause and ask myself,
> "What am I supposed to be noticing, here and now?" I've found it to be
very
> useful.
>
> >I also seem to
> > notice a feeling at around my solar plexus area starting to
> > develop. It's
> > kind of like bursts of energy, that seem to increase when I meditate.
I
> > wonder if this is how chakras were discovered, i.e. in meditation,
people
> > became aware of energy in certain areas of their body and found
> > that there
> > was generally a correlation between peoples experiences?
> >
> > My meditation has improved too, I seem to drift into a meditative state
> > much
> > easier now and quickly reach the stage where I feel the lower half of
my
> > body is so relaxed i'm not particularly aware of it anymore.
> > Also, I seem
> > to stay in meditation easily without becoming mentally agitated. Also
my
> > hands seem to go very light and floaty. I assume these are all common
> > experiences from meditation.
>
> It matches mine.
>
> >
> > One thing that does strike me is that in a state of deep
> > mediation my mind
> > starts to play around, and I find myself imaging things which I
> > suppose are
> > quite disturbing, although I'm not particularly disturbed by them.
Like,
> > recently my mind created a scene where I was stood in a room and
> > there was
> > a
> > knife trying to attack me, and the more I tried to control it
> > the harder it
> > got to control, and in the end I kept getting repeatedly stabbed by the
> > knife. I interpret this as not an awakening psychosis, but my mind
> > metaphorically representing something, so I try to surrender to it and
go
> > with the flow.
>
> Good way to think about it! I think these sorts of
> dreams/visualizations/whatever, are like training sessions for ourselves.
> The fact that you are able to remain unruffled says a lot, I think. And
> perhaps what you are trying to teach yourself, is to do something other
than
> *try to control* it. Its difficult to describe in language.....and there
are
> all sorts of seemingly vague descriptions in zen and various other
> systems..."no mind" is one. "Flow" is another. The closest I can come in
> language, is to say that it is not "trying", but more like "letting"
> something happen. If you get that particular scene again, try something
> different. Instead of perceiving the knife as something to control....try
> dancing with it. Adjust your pattern to its, and let yourself react
> instinctively in a way that is not forced at all. Find out what happens
when
> you change your perception from one of fighting an energy to one of
sensing
> it and flowing with it and nudging it.
> >
> > I also have the experience where I might be sat at my computer desk and
I
> > had a sudden "whooaaaaa!" like a jolt of anxiety and visualise quite
> > vividly
> > (in my mind of course -- and I know it's not real) that some great big
> > soldier or something has just burst through my door. Just strange
> > intrusive
> > thoughts like this. My bach is also aching all the time, but
> > this may be
> > from mechanical strain.
>
> Sounds like spontaneous energy bursts to me, and is something to be
> welcomed. Instead of letting it invoke the fight or flight reflex, take
that
> energy and try to build it even more.....in the same way. Then ride it and
> see where it takes you. Once you learn to ride it, then you can start to
> drive it as well.
>
> I hope that you find something useful in here to help.
>
> stay well,
>
> Thomas
>
>
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