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Subject: Re: Hijacked thread, separate topic. [Re: [K-list] Pain, Depression,
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Dear members,
I hope those who are suffering can go this website and and read
something from it to gain
some insights into their sufferings. Basically from what I am thought
about meditation, one should
focus on the here and now. Observe your thoughts and not get inovlve in
it.
DO NOT FEED ON YOUR SUFFERINGS!
My apologies I am not a good writer and does not show myself
effectively.
Please do go this site :-
http://www.buddhanet.net
<-----Original Message----->
>From: Lyndon Garvey
>Sent: 9/16/2004 9:38:11 PM
>To: k-listATkundalini-gateway.org
>Subject: Re: Hijacked thread, separate topic. [Re: [K-list] Pain,
>Depression,Despair, Discomfort, Lack, Problems, etc.]
>
>
>
>
>
>How do you know it's K and not.. depression, despair, etc?
>
>What do you advise for learning about K, releasing it etc? Why would
you
>iniate something that might take 35+ years of suffering to heal?
>
>Also, how does K tie in with other spiritual teachings... like
buddhism,
>etc. Do they talk about raising Kundalini?
>
>Best Regards,
>L
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lone Path"
>To: "K-List"
>Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:53 AM
>Subject: [K-list] Pain, Depression, Despair, Discomfort, Lack,
Problems,
>etc.
>
>
>>
>> **please remember to delete most of email you are responding to,
before
>posting your comments to the list.**
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> After reading so much about all the problems and how K seems to be
causing
>this, it has been a while since I wanted to write. The reason I
hesitated
>is because I sometimes tend to upset people in what I say but I think I
>should say what I have to say, and hope that those who don't like it
will
>forgive me.
>>
>>
>>
>> K has been active for me for 35 years or more and believe me I have
been
>through hell, but despite this, I never gave up, I tried not to feel
sorry
>for myself, and I wouldn't let all the pain, depression, discomfort,
>whatever, ever let me feel helpless. The more I seemed to 'fall', the
>quicker I got up and carried on. I kept well away from psychiatrists
and
>any people who touch that profession because I KNEW that the only
person who
>could help me was me, and the only person who was creating my hell was
me,
>and not K or anybody else. Most of the pain and discomfort is caused by
>inner conflict as far as I am concerned, it is our refusal to just let
go
>and allow K to do what it has to do, it is our refusal to accept to
'see'
>what it is showing us so that we can resolve and overcome our inner
>problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not learned in K as most of you are because I was only able to
give
>all my experiences a name a few years ago, but I can assure you that I
have
>a lifetime of K and therefore I know from experience even if I don't
know
>intellectually. My determination to become 'One' again gave me the
courage
>and force to live through it all, to laugh at what was happening to me,
to
>rather concentrate on the positive than the negative that I was so used
to
>doing, and so through my pain and tears I laughed and knew that it
would not
>last forever, that the transformations would take place sooner or later
>because I allowed the process to proceed unhampered as much as I could.
>This attitude made the transformations that much quicker, in fact so
much so
>that, then, it was not so much the pain as it was my sanity that
worried me,
>and yet I laughed despite the fact that sometimes I didn't know what
was
>real any more, or whether I was still me or someone else, or anything
at
>all!
>>
>>
>>
>> Knowing that the pain felt was only my own inner conflict, I allowed
>myself to let go, to allow K to do what it needed to do and to show me
what
>I needed to 'see', and so I always looked forward to the outcome, I
>concentrated on the summit of the mountain rather than what I was
feeling or
>living. K was very generous because it gave me those immeasurable
'gifts'
>of knowledge which I could never have got from teachers or books, and
these
>very things await us all if only we will 'allow' them to happen. Rather
>than concentrating on the negativity in your life or the negativity of
your
>feelings, of your body, try to see the positive within the negative,
because
>I assure you it is there, it exists in all things.
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember when I only ever saw things as negative, when the few
things in
>life that gave me pleasure and joy were grasped at as if they were some
rare
>gem that would never appear again, but this was only because I never
ever
>
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