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Recieved: 2004/09/16 13:30
Subject: Hijacked thread, separate topic. [Re: [K-list] Pain, Depressi
From: Lyndon Garvey
On 2004/09/16 13:30, Lyndon Garvey posted thus to the K-list:
How do you know it's K and not.. depression, despair, etc?
What do you advise for learning about K, releasing it etc? Why would you
iniate something that might take 35+ years of suffering to heal?
Also, how does K tie in with other spiritual teachings... like buddhism,
etc. Do they talk about raising Kundalini?
Best Regards,
L
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From: "Lone Path" <thelonepathATyahoo.co.uk>
To: "K-List" <k-listATkundalini-gateway.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:53 AM
Subject: [K-list] Pain, Depression, Despair, Discomfort, Lack, Problems,
etc.
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> After reading so much about all the problems and how K seems to be causing
this, it has been a while since I wanted to write. The reason I hesitated
is because I sometimes tend to upset people in what I say but I think I
should say what I have to say, and hope that those who don't like it will
forgive me.
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> K has been active for me for 35 years or more and believe me I have been
through hell, but despite this, I never gave up, I tried not to feel sorry
for myself, and I wouldn't let all the pain, depression, discomfort,
whatever, ever let me feel helpless. The more I seemed to 'fall', the
quicker I got up and carried on. I kept well away from psychiatrists and
any people who touch that profession because I KNEW that the only person who
could help me was me, and the only person who was creating my hell was me,
and not K or anybody else. Most of the pain and discomfort is caused by
inner conflict as far as I am concerned, it is our refusal to just let go
and allow K to do what it has to do, it is our refusal to accept to 'see'
what it is showing us so that we can resolve and overcome our inner
problems.
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> I am not learned in K as most of you are because I was only able to give
all my experiences a name a few years ago, but I can assure you that I have
a lifetime of K and therefore I know from experience even if I don't know
intellectually. My determination to become 'One' again gave me the courage
and force to live through it all, to laugh at what was happening to me, to
rather concentrate on the positive than the negative that I was so used to
doing, and so through my pain and tears I laughed and knew that it would not
last forever, that the transformations would take place sooner or later
because I allowed the process to proceed unhampered as much as I could.
This attitude made the transformations that much quicker, in fact so much so
that, then, it was not so much the pain as it was my sanity that worried me,
and yet I laughed despite the fact that sometimes I didn't know what was
real any more, or whether I was still me or someone else, or anything at
all!
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> Knowing that the pain felt was only my own inner conflict, I allowed
myself to let go, to allow K to do what it needed to do and to show me what
I needed to 'see', and so I always looked forward to the outcome, I
concentrated on the summit of the mountain rather than what I was feeling or
living. K was very generous because it gave me those immeasurable 'gifts'
of knowledge which I could never have got from teachers or books, and these
very things await us all if only we will 'allow' them to happen. Rather
than concentrating on the negativity in your life or the negativity of your
feelings, of your body, try to see the positive within the negative, because
I assure you it is there, it exists in all things.
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> I remember when I only ever saw things as negative, when the few things in
life that gave me pleasure and joy were grasped at as if they were some rare
gem that would never appear again, but this was only because I never ever
looked for what was positive before, it was a habit to only concentrate on
the negative, a habit of a lifetime! Now I see nothing but the positive in
life and in my life, whether I am feeling pain or whether I am looking at
the news - it is like a meditation, to see what is positive. As I did this
I started laughing at life, at me and all my mistakes and at my thoughts -
what a clown I really was, what clowns the whole world is, all is a big
joke!
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> With regard to money, I too had my ups and downs, but I never ever let the
down keep me there, I went out with the POSITIVE thought in my mind and
transformed all those negative thoughts that were still hiding in the
closet, and transformed this state of poverty. Money always came after that
and I never worried about an unexpected bill ever again.
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> Now I have CFS/Fibromyalgia and I don't feel sorry for myself, there is no
self-pity, there is joy and I laugh all the way down the street as I go at
my snail pace and stop for rests. The physical pain is there yes, but I
don't concentrate on it so I hardly feel it, and I won't take any
painkillers. It is only when I do concentrate on it that it hurts, so I
don't. Yes, I would like to be able to run again, I would like to ride a
bike, and I would just love to row a boat again, but I can't so I don't
bother thinking about it, and I'm just as happy as ever. When we
concentrate on the negative in our lives, then we feel it. When we attach
to our thoughts, we respond to them, and hence we feel pain and sorrow. I
wonder why we are told to meditate? Has anyone understood it yet? I
thought it was to slow down our thoughts, hence not to concentrate on the
negative. The more we concentrate on our negative thoughts, the more we
intensify them, and the more it hurts. So what is the
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> More about me, I also felt self-pity. I used to go running here and there
for consolation, but I realised that whatever I got did not resolve the
problems, even though I might have forgotten about my problems for a few
seconds. Sometimes, it even intensified the pain in fact, as sympathy
usually does, because there are more of you to think about it!!! And so I
stopped asking for any consolation or sympathy and decided to just sort it
out myself, that is to say not to concentrate on it any more and occupy my
thoughts elsewhere, to think positively. It helped. Then I went further, I
wanted to know why I felt this way at all, and so I observed myself, my
thoughts, my feelings, but I tried to do this with impartiality.
Observation certainly did bring many answers as to why I was the way I was
and why I reacted to people and life the way I did - it was a path of
revelation and self-discovery which completely transformed not only me but
my life. Confidence in myself grew, hence the
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responsible and inexhaustible individual. My life changed, I became
responsible for my own creation and I no longer had to 'fight' for what I
needed, everything came without asking, all I needed to do was focus my
thoughts in the right direction, on positive thoughts. Faith in myself
grew, and I finally 'knew' that I was the creator of my own life and totally
responsible for it.
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> My mother says that I was born on a lucky star - it is not true, it is
because I took responsibility for my own life, I stopped expecting others to
take care of me, I confronted my own fears and did what I had always been
afraid of doing. Now, I never blame anyone or anything for whatever I have
created, I don't blame K either. K has been the wonder of wonders, my life
and Life itself, and I will always be grateful to it, for it does indeed
give you the power to 'know' and the power to overcome all limitations if
only you will allow it to help you. It is not there to punish you, it is
there to help you, but are you willing to go beyond the little child that is
dependent to the adult that is independent, because K will only help you if
you help yourself.
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> Be kind to yourself and know that you are not powerless, you hold within
you the Power of all powers, you are your own creator, and you are never
helpless. Helplessness only exists in your mind and nowhere else!
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> Best wishes and much Love,
> Grotty
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