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Recieved: 2004/08/25 01:16
Subject: Re: [K-list] new to list - K and insomnia?
From: PJM
On 2004/08/25 01:16, PJM posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Hillary:
Thanks much for your words of adivse - Hatha yoga may be a better
alternative for me, since my experience with Ashtanga, as I previously
mentioned, seems to exacerbate things on account of the exertion it
requires. Good point about pre-concieved ideas - this is an issue which
comes up all the time in Zen circles, but it seems to have escaped me after
being whacked over the head, so to speak.
Right now, I'm certainly curtailing zazen - my instinct tells me that this
is what I need to do, but my mind/body is so used to doing it that it is
difficult to completely refrain for more than a few days.
Kindest regards
Paul
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] new to list - K and insomnia?
> Dear Paul,
>
>
> When a person, especially one who does Eastern practices, experiences
strong
> energy I tend to call it Kundalini awakening whether or not the spine is
> directly involved. You might try circulating the energy by placing your
tongue
> against the roof of your mouth.
>
> >After the first year of my zazen practice, I started experiencing chronic
> energetic >phenomena <snip>Initially, ceasing zazen help restore my sleep.
But
> then I foolishly went >to a sesshin (an intensive retreat), <snip>This I
think
> intensified the insomnia to the point >where it did not matter whether I
did
> zazen or not.
> <snip> then went to a Shaman. Amazingly, in two visits, at the end of
> January, my >insomnia vanished. <snip>
> >I resumed my zazen practice, <snip> About 4 weeks ago, the insomia
returned,
> <snip>I've >now stopped doing zazen to see if that would help.
>
> Whew! Nothing like cause and effect and not listening to what the energy
is
> telling you! :)) Once Kundalini is activated there is really no need to
do
> any practices. Kundalini energy will take over and do the "work" itself.
> Often, in fact, as in your case, zazen practice is probably ill-advised.
I agree
> with others that physical practices to clear energy paths might be
> helpful--especially Hatha Yoga, in my experience.
>
> >If this is kundalini, there is very little about it that I find
enlightening
> - it is for me one big >struggle, and a huge disappointment, because the
> spritual dimension of my life has >become one of the most important things
in my
> life.
>
> Well, people react to the energy in different ways. Preconceived ideas of
> "enlightenment" often tend to get in the way. Some people simply see the
energy
> as physical sensation--others see it metaphysically.
>
> As for practice, Swami Shivom Tirth in A Guide to Shaktipat writes
>
> "Once Shakti is awakened...,,,we do not advocate any sort of spiritual
> practices but propose a passivity and surrender to the spontaneity of all
active
> energy....You may wonder that I am speaking against some systems of
spiritual
> practices which, in fact, is not true. I simply want to state here that
if you
> continue to be interested in such a system, even after the awakening of
your
> Shakti, it is because of your attachment with it (the system). Such
attachments
> have their origin in the accumulated effects of past deeds. The awakened
> Shakti is capable of thinning them out by their manifestation into action.
You
> may even continue to follow two types of your practices for some time, but
it
> is certain that the practices performed with the feeling of doership will
> gradually be substituted by those without it." p.77/78
>
> Elsewhere he seems to imply that we don't really need to do *any*
practices
> once the energy starts working on us! Practices after K awakening can
prove to
> be interference with the energy.
>
> Love, Hillary
>
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