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Recieved: 2004/08/24 01:33
Subject: Re: [K-list] new to list - K and insomnia?
From: Antoine Carré
On 2004/08/24 01:33, Antoine Carré posted thus to the K-list:
Hello Paul,
First question why do you want to sleep?
Is the strain you are putting on why you do not sleep the cause of
discomfort, or is it not sleeping?
There is two ways to look into this, either you are not ready - when I say
you I mean all your body not just your mid - to practice zazen so
intensively. Then I would suggest doing tai-chi and no not moving posture
for a few weeks. It will equilibrate things very nicely. Even QuiQong is to
passive for you.
The other way is that you are like the few I have met and who do not need
to sleep anymore. Maybe 1 hour or 2 and then they spend the rest of the
night in the Buddha position. Being all there like full grown children all
the rest of the day. Open to each flower they see opening on there path.
But my intuition tells me you are not of the second way yet. You need to
find a way to balance your mind with your body. I suggest tai-chi. It is
very efficient for someone like you.
Talking about a top-down awakening. I would say you are one of those
http://kundalini-teacher.com/awakening/sawaken.html
and you may be interested in the grounding exercise of Angelique that focus
on the solidity of this planet as a source of ground instead of finding the
stillness in movement as in tai-chi. If you pass your day looking for the
stillness in stillness as does zazen, how can you ask for sleep when the
night comes? You have been still most of the time awake so of course you
will not be able to be still as the night comes.
You asked for an opinion, here was one. But your heart, not your brain,
knows the best.
I wish you a deep peace and a nice nigh of rest from your inner struggle
from the program we call sleep.
Antoine
----- Original Message -----
From: "PJM" <pjm1ATsurfglobal.net>
Hi:
I just joined this listerve because I'm having a tremendous amount of
difficulty with what a few others have told me was kundalini. I had never
heard of kundalini until 8 months ago. Currently, my life is being ruined
by insomia - my sleep patterns are non existent, and my body does not
physically seem able to sleep anymore unless in a severely sleep deprived
state. I've been a zen practitioner for seven years, and am a student at a
well-known monastary in the US with highly regarded teachers. About 3 1/2
years ago, I started intensifying my sitting regimen to two hours every
morning, which I maintained for three years. After the first year of my
zazen practice, I started experiencing chronic energetic phenomena - mostly
tears and crying (which felt more like a physiological rather than an
emotional release) and involuntary tremors. Last fall, I noticed that I
was starting to have trouble falling asleep. This was accompanied by and
associated with a distinct feeling of being "wired" - an intense energetic
feeling that would lodge in the back of my head that was perceptibly linked
to my meditation practice. My insomnia was not due to worries, stress (I
have a job that I love and work with great people), or compulsive/obsessive
thought patterns. As the the fall rolled into winter, the insomnia
intensified - by the end of december I was averaging 2 or 3 hours of sleep
a night, and would often go two nights without sleeping at all. Sometimes
during my sitting practice, the enregy in my head became very
uncomfortable. Sometimes it felt like my brain stem was throbbing.
Sometimes I would get this intense pressure in my head, feeling like my
head was going to pop off of my body.
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