To: K-list
Recieved: 2004/08/18 13:57
Subject: RE: [K-list] CFS or ME
From: bartletta, adriana
On 2004/08/18 13:57, bartletta, adriana posted thus to the K-list:
Thanks Gustaf,
I started going to acupuncture a while ago, that has helped quite a lot, too. Plus, I joined an exercise club last week, they teach yoga and I will probably sign up for this, so I am on my way to complete recovery but I will follow-up with the test for the doctor's sake and myself, just to prove I am fine...
Thanks,
Love,
Adriana
-----Original Message-----
From: K-list-bouncesATkundalini-gateway.org [mailto:K-list-bouncesATkundalini-gateway.org] On Behalf Of Gustaf Grefberg
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:42 AM
To: k-listATkundalini-gateway.org
Subject: RE: [K-list] CFS or ME
Dear Adriana,
I think this doctor is doing what he knows is right with the truth he lives
in and the knowledge that he has.. He is trying to do his job and help out
the best he can. It's alright, let him keep looking. It's not going to hurt
you if he keeps looking..
But don't allow yourself to have your hope, the miracles happening to you
and the positive experiences and thinking be ripped out from under you. Not
from your doctor, not from anybody else. Just because he is doing his job
trying to help you as much as he can doesn't mean that you have to adapt the
way you see things to his. Listening to him is good enough.
You can stand on your own, be open to the divine in you. Heck, even if the
experiences you have had are not K activation, you have by coming here, by
broadening your horizon opened yourself up to new, divine experiences.. Now,
my intuition tells me that your experiences are not all related to sickness.
I would also recommend you getting in touch with more alternative forms of
healing (unless you already have).. Find a good teacher in yoga, tantra,
reiki or chi-gong. That doesn't mean you have to give up your doctor's
visits. He may still have important things to tell you and do for you. But
it is not all of it, far from.
A big problem within the western medicine community is that they teach us to
-identify- with sickness, create the idea of the body and sickness as
something permanent, an entity, rather than processes. He tells you. "You
are sick" Then you say. "I am sick" "I am sick" is a good way of placing
that illness right at the center of our being, making sure we hold on to it,
grab on to it with everything we got. Even worse is making an estimation
based on statistics.. "You have no more than one more year to live".. If we
take that to our heart, it may very well become the truth, even if it
originally wasn't.. Or "This illness is incurable" That's a good way of
stating that their way is the only way, and since they haven't found
anything, it can't be cured. Spirituality, inner healing and miracles is
just bogus. In a medical world that has such incredible miracles, that can
replace hearts! Remove tumours from our bodies, even our brains, that can
monitor almost every imaginable physical body function.. In this world of
miracles they have forgotten about the miracles of the human being. We are
not permanent lumps of flesh, but beautiful, advanced and amazing processes
that changes every minute.. Human life is a transformation at all times.
Life and death in every moment.
Ok.. Getting a little bit carried away.. But the essence of what I am saying
is.. Listen to your doctor, let him run some tests, but don't identify with
his sphere of truth.. Stay in your own.. Expand it..
There is a woman in the same yoga-teacher's group as mine, and she has just
started to hold classes with yoga for fibromyalgia! She has fibromyalgia as
well, and she has amazed both herself and others in her way of dealing with
it.. She has a doctor, of course, but she works with it in more than one
way.
I believe you.
Sincerely
Gustaf
> Hi All,
>
> Yesterday, I went to the doctor for my fibromyalgia follow-up visit, I
> have seen the doctor twice since my K activation. He has had suspicions
> that I have MS because fibromyalgia carry symptoms very similar to MS and
> of course chronic fatigue is part of MS and Fibro.
> The doctor is now really suspicious because I do not have any symptoms at
> all. I have absolutely nothing...
> I even told him of my experience with the electrical current from my spine
> to my head in Las Vegas, but since he is part of the school of thought
> that there are no miracles, he is now convinced that I do have MS because
> MS has times when the patient feels well and other times the patient is
> very sick. So now, he made an appointment to get another MRI of my spinal
> chord. I just had an MRI of the brain two weeks ago and that was
> negative. But the doctor is still looking...
> I have to make a decision to stop this nonsense with this doctor. Or go
> and fall into the trap of thinking that I am really sick and this
> experience with the K activation was in my imagination. He called my
> experience sleep paralysis!
> Well, what do you think about this?
> I am well, and believe me, I have not felt this way ever, even when I was
> younger I never felt so good!!!
>
> Love always,
> Adriana
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: K-list-bouncesATkundalini-gateway.org [mailto:K-list-
> bouncesATkundalini-gateway.org] On Behalf Of DruoutATaol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:53 PM
> To: marionATmarionhanvey.wanadoo.co.uk; k-listATkundalini-gateway.org
> Subject: Re: [K-list] CFS or ME
>
>
> **please remember to delete most of email you are responding to, before
> posting your comments to the list.**
>
>
> In a message dated 8/15/2004 6:14:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> marionATmarionhanvey.wanadoo.co.uk writes:
>
>
> >Does K activation cause this?
>
> Dear Marion,
>
> There seems to be some correlation in the case of CFS. I don't think K
> *causes* CFS.--in fact there have been cases in which becoming K activite
> seems to
> have cured it. But there seems to be some sort of connection. See our
> health poll:
>
> http://kundalini-gateway.org/polls/po_heal2.html
>
> And the CFS thread:
>
> http://kundalini-gateway.org/threads/th_cfs.html
>
> Love, Hillary
>
>
>
>
>
>
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