To: K-list
Recieved: 2004/07/02 14:34
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Maitraya, The Future Buddha/Christ
From: Druout

In a message dated 7/1/2004 1:09:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
contour5ATqwest.net writes:
http://www.parallel-youniversity.com/dboard2/messages/140.html

Hi Michael,

Whew! I think this guy has been smoking too much weed.

I do agree that secret societies are anathema to either true democracy or an
open society, but this guy seems to be way caught up with conspiracy
theories--including the ultimate granddaddy conspiracy theory concerning Jesus vs
Satan.

On the subject of ecstasy:

Jeff writes:

>is it the ecstasy that eliminates the anxiety and
>stress (dukkha)? Or, is it the elimination of the
>stress that brings about the ecstasy?

Well waking up with a K buzz certainly starts the day off right. :))

Perhaps the question is whether or not, once one has opened the natural
"doorway" to ecstasy, whether one needs to keep practicing techniques (meditation,
etc.) in order to seek out certain sensations.

I don't think the experience has to be cyclical. i.e. techniques to bring
about ecstasy, to eliminate stress which causes a renewed desire to bring about
ecstasy. :) As Ramana Maharshi often said, our natural state is bliss. If we
need to eliminate stress, perhaps we might find out why there is stress in
the first place. What is untranquil in our lives that cause us to search for
tranquillity? While I don't think reaching out for ecstasy has to be defended,
I don't think it has to be sought out in the first place either. It is our
natural state of Be-ing. It simply Is.

Love, Hillary

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