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Recieved: 2004/06/16 15:07
Subject: RE: [K-list] Memory Loss
From: Gustaf Grefberg
On 2004/06/16 15:07, Gustaf Grefberg posted thus to the K-list:
> I have a question about mantras. Mystress talked about
> how mantras (with respect to reiki symbols) can get
> tainted with people's thoughts and can start carrying
> them. So what about the mantras that people have used
> for thousands of years, stuff that has been handed
> down through Yogis and the Buddha...
> is it true that it is the intention behind chanting
> the mantra that works, so the mantra (the sound
> vibration) is actually not the cause of the increased
> energy and chakra openings, but instead tricks the
> mind, or is it both?
> Also, if the sound mantras emanated from the core of a
> being lost in samadhi ( as thats how i think mantras
> came about, the yogi's "insides" started to vibrate to
> some tone, like the OMKARA which he then handed down
> to others) doesnt it come from the godhead? so in
> effect, its beyond getting tainted....
I would be careful of very specifit mantras if I wasn't feeling comfortable
around them. There IS a lot of hoax in some cases, especially when they come
from people that want to make money. If you have a mantra that really makes
things happen in you, that shake things out, brings harmony etc, then can it
really be tainted? The sound itself? The mantra is a set of sound
vibrations, how could those sound vibrations become tainted over the course
over the years? Would Om Namah Shivaya be anything else now than it was two
thousand years ago? I would say that mantras like these are beyond taint.
The taint would be in ourselves. For example, when I received my mantra, I
was told, and at the same time knew that things would start happening.
Things would come up. Oh yeah. Taint indeed. But the taint that I have felt
rising is my own, so it can be cleared. It is not the mantra. It is very
similar to blaming our problems on Kundalini. It is a pure energy in itself,
and the difficulties are our own that are brought up into the light. I have
done specific mantras for specific things, too. And they played their role.
I practiced a mantra for karma clearing in the throat for a period of time
due to neck pains and obstructions there. The pains eventually left, so did
the obstructions. I was told "Be careful, it can lead to awakenings" And so
it did. Both blissful things and a lot, lot of anger that was the karma that
had been stored there.
> Barbara Brennen, in her books mentions about the three
> inner energy dimensions that define physical existence
> and health...
> the Auric field as we all know it (has seven layers of
> energies governing different aspects of self), then
> there's the haric or intention level...which defines
> ones clarity with life's purposes and the more aligned
> the more mentallly and physically clear is the
> individual about his/her life's tasks....
> and the core star which is the essential godhead
> within all of us...so, as we go thru life and clear
> our misconceptions of separation from the con
> nectedness and oneness with all, this star light gets
> brighter and brighter....
> has anyone here experiemented with energy and also
> percieved these dimensions? I just thought it was
> worth summarising here for all because i see a lot of
> confusion with purpose amongst us here (torn between
> letting go, detachment, and actively pursuing living
> because it makes a difference to the whole world) so
> maybe there are these levels that one needs to know
> that may need "fixing" to resolve the "lostness" and
> get filled with more purpose?
> Thats that for now...
> more later
> D
I don't have as much experience here as with mantras, so I will leave this
to somebody else. =D
Om namah shivaya
Gustaf
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