To: K-list
Recieved: 2004/03/10 17:40
Subject: RE: [K-list] Hello
From: Rich
On 2004/03/10 17:40, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
> But I hope this world is RIPE!
I was once informed; The world is an orange waiting to be squeezed ;)
> We've had 2,000 years since the dominant
> culture got its wake-up call.
2,547 if you include Buddhists. Of course there's been many other sects,
groups, religions etc from the beginning of coherency that have been able to
speak of 'strange' experiences. In a wider setting, the strange is normal.
> There have been epidemics of Grace since
> then--the 60's were one such--but we've always found ways to wimp out, to
> suppress, to lose the Baby Jesus and put the Holy Bathwater on the
> throne... We've burned ourselves into a corner by this time.
Who's we?
> So what is the Grace of the 2000's? Something we can buy or sell?
Grace is being guided by divine will. It's precious. Would you give your
mother away?
> Something
> like a drug we can mistake for the Spirit, worship instead of the Spirit?
> Maybe the Spirit itself, this time.
Love is the drug :)
(Hippie talking)
> My experience hasn't taken a classical "kundalini" form, so far. But there
> are elements in my tradition (Quaker) that suggest that, going back to
> James Nayler (who came to a bad end for witnessing to Christ within him,
> which seemed like a blasphemous expression of egomania to his
> contemporaries.) Some of his neglected writings--which I've heard of, but
> haven't seen--mention a kind of spiralling energy he experienced.
What has your experience been (apart from what you wrote earlier)? I was
curious to what brought you here?
(Of course you're very welcome... for my small vote...)
> Many "return of Christ" metaphors start making sense if you understand
> them
> to mean a deep, widespread breaking out of the Spirit, a world-wide
> Pentecost, leading to a time when "No one shall say to his neighbor, 'Know
> the Lord,' for the Earth shall be full of the knowledge of God."
I wonder where (how) you looked when you had your experience? What moved you
in that way?
> I think this is happening. And that the kind of unexpected kundalini
> outbreaks this list deals with are part of the process. Let's process.
Yeah... But what is different to this, than to when people talked of the
second coming. There has always been something around the corner and when it
doesn't happen, what happens? People make up new stories and fabricate
things in attempt to maintain their ideas and beliefs as real.
Facing _now_ is a different kettle of fish.
Rich
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