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Recieved: 2004/02/18 18:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Teachers - do the ever learn?
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent


On 2004/02/18 18:39, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:





At 12:12 AM 18/02/2004, Lobster wrote:
>Dear Friends of K
>
>Never is a long time.
>You never know . . .
>
>Ah well . . .
>
>Perhaps try and have a bit of hope for even the 'spiritually'
>ridiculous

     says Lobster the clown. :)

>I have always hoped that Angelique may develop to the point
>of allowing - rather than providing.

     We all do what we can... ;)

>It is true that those who are very still (internally) are able to pick
>up on the subtleties of emanation within others much better than they
>themselves (because of internal chatter) are able to.

     OM.

>Do I sense (with my sensitized whiskers)
>perfect stillness?
>
>LOL
>
>No sense in developing what each
>person can and will find in time . . .

       unless they run out of time... out of space...

>Humility has many forms.
>For example the writer of the Karma Sutra
>was a great ascetic guru reknowned for
>his 'hot tempered' cursing of some
>of those he encountered.
>(Is this true? Have only anecdotal evidence for it :-)

    Richard Burton's translation advocates the kidnapping and rape of
unwilling lovers...

>In Sufism, 'Haughter' (a special kind of humility)
>is seen as an excellent quality BUT not in the mundane sense
>that most people understand this.
>Khidr (the Secret Prophet of the Sufis) is not reknowed for humility
>in fact in a famous encounter with Moses he teaches
>that prophet a thing or three . . .

    I'd like to read that one.

>>MAS said "Truth hurts, no matter how gently it is expressed. If something
>>is not true, it cannot hurt. It is simply nonsensical, gets no reaction."
>>
>>I don't believe that is true for everybody. For me (unless you say my
>>blue chinese hair is ugly. lol) an insult can hurt even if it's not
>>true. I know this is somethign I have to do some work on, BUT maybe
>>there are others out there who feel the same as me on this issue????
>>namaste
>>lori-ann
>
>It is not at all true because it is new age gibberish.
>
>At a certain level of development
>truth becomes acceptable whatever the consequences.

    and at any level, true compliments can be delicious. They can be
pleasant even if they are not true, o wise humble beautiful enlightened
Lobster.

>In fact it is relished even when presented in a direct and forthright manner.
>Many rascist statements (for example) are not true
>but still hurtful.

     I think we covered that in later posts of this thread.

>The important quality is balance
>One must have a shell and a centre.
>- Well that is what Mama Lobster taught this crustacean.

     Shell? Boundaries...

>Deep down we are all Good People.
>For example Angelique has provided me with Web space

     There I go bein the provider again... :)

>for which I am grateful (thanks Angelique)
>Hopefully it will be used to good effect.

     I trust that it will. Want a new home for the exxo list? I can provide
that too...

>here is a program to relax for a while
>protected by a very ferocious looking Tantric Deity
>
>ALMS v1
>www.cyber-shaktipat.org/relax/alms.html
>
>and for those of you wishing to travel to other dimensions . . .
>http://www.cyber-shaktipat.org/relax/design/
>. . . but more of that another time . . .
>
>
>Lobster



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