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Recieved: 2004/02/18 08:12
Subject: [K-list] Teachers - do the ever learn?
From: Lobster
On 2004/02/18 08:12, Lobster posted thus to the K-list:
>Mystress, I don't know how we'll ever get beyond this point. I will never
>accept your supposed omniscience. Not you, or anyone else, will ever know
>me better than myself. You will NEVER know anyone on this list better
>than they know themselves.
Dear Friends of K
Never is a long time.
You never know . . .
Ah well . . .
Perhaps try and have a bit of hope for even the 'spiritually'
ridiculous
I have always hoped that Angelique may develop to the point
of allowing - rather than providing.
It is true that those who are very still (internally) are able to pick
up on the subtleties of emanation within others much better than they
themselves (because of internal chatter) are able to.
Do I sense (with my sensitized whiskers)
perfect stillness?
LOL
No sense in developing what each
person can and will find in time . . .
>Every great guru from Jesus to Buddha to Krishna had humility, and it was
>that humility that was seen as a strength by their students. That is what
>you're missing, and until you learn to develop it, you will only attract
>those who support your goddess-game and no real work will get done. Come
>down to earth, and we can all hold hands and experience the Joy of
>Kundalini the way it was given to us.
Humility has many forms.
For example the writer of the Karma Sutra
was a great ascetic guru reknowned for
his 'hot tempered' cursing of some
of those he encountered.
(Is this true? Have only anecdotal evidence for it :-)
In Sufism, 'Haughter' (a special kind of humility)
is seen as an excellent quality BUT not in the mundane sense
that most people understand this.
Khidr (the Secret Prophet of the Sufis) is not reknowed for humility
in fact in a famous encounter with Moses he teaches
that prophet a thing or three . . .
Some of the MahaSiddhis were reknowned for a crazy wisdom that
is too advanced for the crazy to mimic
(and certainly contains the very opposite of humility) . . .
God (as you may know) has no need for humility (being all-powerful and such)
Even lesser deities can be a little forthright (shall we say)
>MAS said "Truth hurts, no matter how gently it is expressed. If something
>is not true, it cannot hurt. It is simply nonsensical, gets no reaction."
>
>I don't believe that is true for everybody. For me (unless you say my
>blue chinese hair is ugly. lol) an insult can hurt even if it's not
>true. I know this is somethign I have to do some work on, BUT maybe there
>are others out there who feel the same as me on this issue????
>namaste
>lori-ann
It is not at all true because it is new age gibberish.
At a certain level of development
truth becomes acceptable whatever the consequences.
In fact it is relished even when presented in a direct and forthright manner.
Many rascist statements (for example) are not true
but still hurtful.
Many people who believe every imagination, arising, emotional
condition etc to be of import are often deeply
sensitive people.
The important quality is balance
One must have a shell and a centre.
- Well that is what Mama Lobster taught this crustacean.
Deep down we are all Good People.
For example Angelique has provided me with Web space
for which I am grateful (thanks Angelique)
Hopefully it will be used to good effect.
I have always believed Angeliques intentions are good.
I believe the same of George Bush
and Osama Bin Laden.
It may even be true of me . . .
The difference is that some people provide death
mayhem and are incompetent
and some help the deluded and are mostly harmless
(being befuddled themselves)
After all moving a deluded person from one delusion to a more beneficial
befuddlement
is a therapeutic service (just not a spiritual one)
and talking of delusions . . .
here is a program to relax for a while
protected by a very ferocious looking Tantric Deity
ALMS v1
www.cyber-shaktipat.org/relax/alms.html
and for those of you wishing to travel to other dimensions . . .
http://www.cyber-shaktipat.org/relax/design/
. . . but more of that another time . . .
Lobster
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