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Recieved: 2004/01/25 16:07
Subject: [K-list] ego
From: Guy Johnson
On 2004/01/25 16:07, Guy Johnson posted thus to the K-list:
This is a clarification in answer to a post on my post on ego. I hope this
helps.
Hi Blackberry-lilly,
It is wonderful to hear from you. You are obviously correct in that,
unless I am in the same room with you, words are the way for me to reach
out. Words are still the most significant invention of man and the
information contained in words holds up our civilization, as well as limits
our growth. We open our intellect and train ourselves with word excercises.
These exercises create ever more intelligent beings, and I do not wish to
denigrate their importance to our growth. Mankind holds up these symbols
of our knowledge, as the reason for his superiority over all other beings
and creatures. Philosophy, science and religion are fine examples of this
fundamental, historical belief. There is more available to us, and I would
be in agreement with your thoughts and those of Mr Campbell. My
understanding of my process of moving beyond words was what I hoped to
sharre. If I speak in shocking terms about devaluing our intellect in order
to expand our experiences from the knowledge of man to the experience of the
divine, it is offered from a place of love. Hope that what follows
reflects that perhaps better. In order for me to write, I am forced to hang
out in my intellect, and that part of me is not always capable of gentle
delivery. So, you feel my conflict with delivery of ideas through words!
In the wordless silence of meditation, we become aware of internal
energies AND our infinite presence in divine oneness. Meditation is another
tool to help us master the ability to find the wordless state. The use of a
mantra occupies the intellect, thus easing the transition from a day-to-day
state of being. However, if we only master the meditative practice in the
isolation of a quiet room, we are missing a further step that is available
to us... namely, to embrace the clarity and peripheral vision of that
silence, and integrate it with our daily being. Vibration, in the form of a
sung or spoken mantra, music, or drugs also serve to occupy the intellect,
and allows the divine experience to occur without the utter loss of self. If
we finish our meditation, and simply revert back to the familiar, then the
oneness we experienced may vibrate and we may feel to some degree the
aftereffect of our journeying, yet we are still removed from practical
application in our worldly life. We step back into our small identity in
order to be who we think we are.
Oneness has been spoken of by many throughout the ages. But the writing of
it is anecdotal. And the written or spoken proposal of a path which worked
for one may not necessarily work for another. The path to Oneness is always
deeply personal, private (often referrred to as dark night of the soul) and
requires total immersion in what feels like dire aloneness, before the utter
unity is experienced. What one must work through in terms of emotional and
intellectual structures of belief and experience, is unique for each person.
Following any direction, as dictated by another, simply keeps us safe, and
walking beyond the common experience requires a willingness to explore what
is inside, to face our deepest attachments, to surrender them, in order to
make room for the new experience. We have to allow that we may be far
greater than we can even imagine! The past, words, and experiences that
have formed our being and our sense of ourselves all serve to keep us in a
state of 'I', the world as 'I' know it, the world as 'I've' seen it, the
world as 'I've' experienced it... we become an accumulation of what has come
before. 'Being in the moment' requires a release of our attachment to that
identity. Otherwise, the attachment colors and anchors each and every
opportunity we have to transcend those limits. When we have allowed the
Light to permeate us in totality, we feel the oneness, and we are
simultaneously vulnerable and egoless. This provides us the opportunity to
embrace compassion for all fear, all terror, all attachment and limitation
of all others. We are then freed to recreate our identity, our ego, and
imbue it with the vibration of love and divine knowledge... the ego will now
serve our daily way in the physical world, but will assess, honor, process
what comes to us not from the past, but from total love and faith in the
moment. We are then in an active state of BEing and application to daily
life is possible. The vibration of who we were will challenge us. We then
practice integration of the new knowledge through living, rather than
practice through practice.
The intellect will always be the liason between the I and the soul, but once
the integration of a healed past is mastered, (and I propose that allowing
the loss of identity, allowing the light to take over, even if for a moment,
indeed serves to enlighten and heal our mind's small take on life.) Once we
experience the fullness of ONE, who we are as individuals is insignificant,
as are the words that kept us tied there. That is not to say this process
is simple or easy. The intellect experiences the surrender of I as DEATH.
But, there is nothing to fear, because I does not cease, it simply shifts
from personal to divine. The 'I' can draw on the experience of Oneness and
apply it to daily functioning.
>From all this, what I hope to share with you all, is that the human mind is
capable of thinking in an aware state without words... in a place where all
knowing is available... all integration is viewable. From the small,
personal self, this knowing is not possible. Access to our creative source
is possible, and can take us far beyond what our small sense of indentity
can comprehend. We all hold total potential to live the Oneness that lies
within, but only if we get out of our own way.
Namaste,
Guy and Katrina
Rainbow Spirit
From: blackberry_lily
Message 2 in Discussion
Hi Guy,
I've read a few of your posts on ego and language,
and being a writer, I kind of disagree to some extent--or perhaps I'm taking
unnecessary offense. Reading and writing can evoke thought.
Reading and creating words to read is a form of meditation, an expression of
soul, spirit, and can trigger the reader to contemplate what they've read.
Also--some of your posts on language make me laugh
because you say language gets in the way, but then you are using language to
communicate your ideas.
Perhaps language can be a double-edge sword?
One must see past the symbols and metaphors in
order to reach a transcendent state.
beyond the thoughts, beyond the dimension that is obvious to us.
It is where illumination comes from, where breath
breath of life as one--we must contemplate in silence, find the quiet voice
inside, still our external desires, open our hearts to the differences in
the
world and realize the differences are merely misunderstandings formed by
ideas
that are often communicated through language using myth, metaphor and
symbols.
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