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Recieved: 2004/01/08 00:55
Subject: [K-list] How To Believe What I Don't
From: David Bozzi


On 2004/01/08 00:55, David Bozzi posted thus to the K-list:



1. Gratitude - Hillary
2. Meditation - Lobster
3. Just Do It - Carol
4. Realize awareness - (video submitted by Oryvind)
5. Change Your Mind - Hety


My hero, (jesus) knew he was stuck with this incredible limitation of body
trapped in a time-space wedge.

(and such special awareness is extra painful for those with balls
as large as his)

I don't tell many people that Jesus is my hero
otherwise the wedge tightens.

Of all the suggestions suggested
to combat and overwhelm
darkness
all contain one element in common.

That is will.
(intent)

Action.

Do something.

There is always the element of don't do something
but nevertheless I can never escape the truth
that I must.

(is god a dick or what?!)

anyway...

I've come to the conclusion
that any conclusion I arrive to
must inevitably
bring me more suffering.

As one suggestion suggests
(Lobster: meditation)
if I were to expect suffering to ease
through the exercision of my will
well then suffering will
just go on
(and on)

Yes, god is indeed a dick.
(much like Lobster)

Anyhow
Carol & Hety's
suggestion to believe truth
when I clearly do not not
seem to be exactly the same
(just do it, change your mind)

I suppose on some level,
which I clearly do not have access to
for whatever reason

is equally applicable to both Carol & Hety
(i.e. neither of them have access to that level otherwise
neither of them would have shared that 'knowledge' with us)

In other words,
if you *See*
the last thing you would ever tell me
is to *See*

Ok fine.
I can deal with that.

Hillary suggested contemplation of gratefulness
which is all well and good
but
if I am lost in a world of darkness (illusion)
what pray-tell
could I ever perceive as something as being grateful for...?
Whatever I perceive to be worthy of gratefulness
is surely an illusion and therefore of the 'darkness'.
(nice try Hillary, though for some strange reason I cannot contact
 I'm certain your approach offers some meaning for you, blessings to you!)

Oryvind offers a music video
which suggests
Awareness lies beneath
the cloudy lies always
and one only needs to persist
and acknowledge such
(again more will/intent)

I haven't made up my mind yet
(and am not so sure that such is required)

but

all in all

I feel all of you
have offered something of worth

(and of course I cannot express through words why)

There is obviously an element of will (intent) involved
and curiously
an element of surrender

Anyone who purports
the solution requires
one and not the other is a liar

and furthermore
I do not perceive anyone as coming forth
as a liar.

You are all truth-tellers
(and liars)
in your own right.

I appreciate the effort.

Your effort is a gift
that I personally can never truly
appreciate in my dark world.

Were we ever to meet
in a Place
of any real worth

there would be no reason to question why...

Peace & Gratfulfullness to You...




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