To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/10/18 18:26
Subject: Re: [K-list] beliefs
From: Druout
On 2003/10/18 18:26, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 10/17/2003 5:31:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
goran AT_NOSPAM fizika.org writes:
> Consistency is one of the prerequisites of any system which tends to be
> optimally operative with, within a 'reasonable model' (eg. physical
> reality).
> Now, if E is not building anything (system for example) or if he is not
> striving towards operativity or if his 'model' transcends logic as you
> suggested then he doesn't need to be consistent.
>
Hi Goran,
If I may jump in here...
The following quote from William James might clarify things a bit:
"The regular mystical way of attaining the vision of the One is by ascetic
training, fundamentally the same in all religious systems. But this ineffable
kind of Oneness is not strictly philosophical, for philosophy is essentially
talkative and explicit, so I must pass it by. p. 118 Some Problems with
Philosophy.
You seem to be fascinated with the way the mind works, but when K hits
"intelligence" takes on a new meaning. The mind still functions, but there is a
dimension that goes beyond the intellect that indeed does not necessarily relate
happily to either logic or consistency! :))
There seems to be an element of wanting to prove something in your posts. Is
it the superiority of the intellect over "new age" fuzzy thinking? I was
pretty much a skeptic and rationalist before K hit. I wonder if you are somewhat
afraid of "letting go." I suspect genius often happens when logic is
transcended.
I may have missed your introductory post while I was away as to what led you
to the K-list...
> Earth being flat presumption for example.
Well, I suppose if one could flatten out the world and fold it it might
explain bi-location via "worm holes." I suspect not much is as it seems to be on
the surface.
>
> That's what unfortunately happened when I 'just acted' -I started doing it
> and
> now I learned I spent energy and annoyed here just because of my third
> chakra
> issues. I also learned that I could have learned it with simple simulation
> in
> my head without annoying here and spending so much energy. My wanting?! I
> don't even know what I want! Ironically, I was the one speaking of consistency
> ;)
:)) Not annoying, really. It's just that you seem to be a little like a pit
bull who doesn't want to let go! :)) You are very welcome here. Just
loosen your grip a bit and enjoy the ride! Has no other subject caught your
interest?
> Who says they're enlightened!?
Who says they aren't?
Love, Hillary
In a message dated 9/18/03 goran AT_NOSPAM fizika.org writes:
>To me it sounds more reasonable and I would rather define atribute
'Intelligence' >simply as the level of development of the parts of the brain involved
in abilities of >focus and concentration.There is actually a research in
progress based on that idea.
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