To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/10/04 21:43
Subject: Re: [K-list] Philosophical question
From: contour5
On 2003/10/04 21:43, contour5 posted thus to the K-list:
Okay, this has gone on long enough! Time for me to jump right in and
shoot myself in both feet!
> How do you know I found experiment scary and not the view I sensed
> from it?
>
Heh. Heh heh.
>
> That's a good point. What started with simple questions has turned
> into inner stuff issues very quickly.
>
Welcome to the K-List!
>
> only that -both me (and E?) are far from being
> a guru.
>
I wouldn't write the Argonaut off so quickly... he's evolving in remarkable
ways, and at an amazing pace!
>
>>>Isn't the only difference between ego-free mind and ego-mind the
>>>absence of the qualities of ego?
>>
>> No, not entirely. Ego may remain, but it is no longer in charge.
>>Actions do not stem from it, it's desires are not a motivating factor.
>>It is more like an entertaining monkey chattering away in a
>>corner, rather
>>than the whole of personal identity. You can watch it
>>display its antics,
>>without acting on them or identifying with them as your Self.
Yes! Bravo! Beautiful image! Thank you, Mistress!
>
> Why would you ignore a part of yourself? With what will you discern
> between the lower vibrations of your own and other's consciousness
> but with the ego which is the discerning consciousness itself?
>
Semantic misunderstanding here? The "discerning consciousness", in
my simplistic mental cosmology, is the conscience, the quiet, patient voice
within- the voiceless voice of God. The ego, In stark contrast, is that
which
enslaves us- through greed, lust, hatred- in a multitude of graspings and
aversions. The ego is incapable of discerning much beyond self-interest.
Acting purely in self interest inevitably leads to suffering, for oneself,
and for others.
>
> If you're a puppet both before and after surrendering to the guidance
> how can then in essence exist difference in qualities of freedom before
> and after surrendering?
>
Bliss arises, as one overcomes the cravings of ego, and begins to align
with
divine will. As ego recedes, suffering diminishes. Plus, the energy
rushes in
your chakras are SO much better than bogus ego intoxication...
>
> Ok, I'm changing perspective; Isn't then the ultimate freedom to
> fully understand that infinite part of your mind? Why only listen
> to your inner navigator -why not fully understand what lies behind
> it and act according to it, with full 'responsibility' (which may even
> be an illusion)? Isn't but only that the freedom?
>
Your "inner navigator" is God, or "All That Is". What lies beyond all
that is?
Might be something, somehow, but logic probably won't take you there.
>
> My algebra professor once said: "We can't comprehend it but we can
> talk about it." :)
>
Yess. The infinity of nothingness, the solid state of non-being. I'll
spare you...
To get a reminder of your password or adjust your subscription, visit:
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/mailman/listinfo/k-list_kundalini-gateway.org
DISCLAIMER!
Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
K. List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
symbol.