To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/09/28 00:00
Subject: RE: [K-list] beliefs
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2003/09/28 00:00, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 12:56 PM 27/09/03, Goran Starcevic wrote:
>On the other hand I know, among other things, for example, the
>basics of logic and can derive all sorts of absurds and
>inconsistencies out of Elargonauto's sayings on this list which
>is not only amusing but also pragmatic -
for whom?
>it's only that he finds
>it boring and MAS shares that impression (the second of which
>doesn't surprise me at all :)
and what is that supposed to mean? Might as well spit it out instead of
making allusions.
>so I get an impression I'm probably
>either on the list in which everyone is talking about high or
>extreme high-level
Yes.
>without first being clear with the low-level
>stuff
We are clear, but it is irrelevant.
>and/or that only Elargonauto does that but no one seems to
>notice or care about that for some reason.
What he says is clear, from a higher chakra perspective. It is Zen.
Choosing to argue inconsistencies from a lower chakra perspective is
dull and coming to agreement is impossible. Different chakra
universes/dimensions follow different rules. It is the blind men and the
elephant.
You cannot sort out a Zen koan with logic no matter what you do, it is
useless for some kinds of understanding. What is the sound of one hand
clapping? If a tree falls in the forest and there is no-one to hear, does
it make a sound? The point of such contemplation is to confuse the logical
mind and break free of the ego box it represents, in order to expand
consciousness and develop intuition. Defending the logical box is missing
the point, entirely.
Frankly, most list members are not interested in listening to
unawakened people tell them that their intuitively based choices are
illogical, because they get quite enough of that from unawakened people in
their lives already. It gets old pretty quick.
I make decisions with my gut too. The power chakra contains the
feedback center for issues of conscience, safety and dharma VS.
karma. This is guidance from Goddess, cosmic consciousness that has
knowledge outside of my basic linear time-space senses. The weenie logical
ego with it's limited input/output and linear processing is bone stupid by
comparison. It cannot see the future truly, or know all the ripples of any
action. It is working with limited sources of information.
My gut tells me things that are not logical, often... my intuition tells
me a lot of things I could not logically know though normal 5 senses, but
gut instinct and intuition is proven right by results. I do not care about
what is logical, I only care if the system works, and it does.
The basic essence of this argument is that Elargonauto trusts his gut
instincts and you do not. That is an evolutionary process. Arguing for
your logical perspectives is not likely to help you evolve in the area of
Kundalini, tho it may have gotten you good marks in school. Continue to
worship at the altar of logic, if you choose, but realize most other list
members are surrendered to a higher power... and you will have to also,
eventually if K has hold of you.
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