To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/09/25 17:49
Subject: Re: [K-list] Philosophical question
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2003/09/25 17:49, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 05:58 PM 24/09/03, elargonauto wrote:
> I´m sorry but I don´t share your point of view. I think the
>conversation was starting to make all kind of boring and monotonous circles,
>as we answered a question answered with a question with more questions.
>And was going clearly no-where. So I don´t have any interest in continue it.
That was my impression too.
> > Nope. You haven´t got the idea. I´m telling that if you live
> > for achive things instead for enjoying it, you are losing the point.
>
>So Jesus either totaly lost the point when he gave himself on
>the cross or he did enjoy it very much. LOL
Goran, it appears that you are arguing for the sake of arguing, rather
than trying to understand Elargonauto or express your own position
clearly. Obviously you are enjoying it. What are you trying to achieve?
>Let me rephrase the question once again, LOL: "If the direction
>of your mind (which doesn't need to be comissioned by the power
>of anything and do it's duty as best as it can) commisioned
>by the power of your own will is bringing you to the place of
>your choosing how can you call it 'serious limitation of
>freedom'?!
The mind of a Zen Master is silent, yet the actions of the Master occur
naturally, in perfection. No thinking or choosing required... no mental
effort.
The part of the mind that has to think and choose, is ego... inferior to
the larger, cosmic mind that simply *knows.* Much of the "thinking" of the
average mind is simply karmic clutter, old programming on rewind. The
process of Kundalini clears out the clutter to get to the unified, silent
place of Mastery... yet, it is not ego that masters, ego must surrender.
Trying to repress the ego noise is effort, and does not lead to
release. Allowing, surrendering is more effective. Focusing on the body
feelings instead of the mind chatter, is also effective... so long as there
is not also a lot of effort to control the feelings.
>It's not the type of things you're doing that entierly defines you
>as intelligent but the choices you make. One level of intelligence
>would be to choose to tie new symbols to different things and make
>different new connections between them
NLP is excellent for doing this.
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