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Recieved: 2003/09/22 15:49
Subject: [K-list] One cannot think around the whole body until K
From: elargonauto
On 2003/09/22 15:49, elargonauto posted thus to the K-list:
*The thing about fear is that it controls 'us' to a lesser or greater
extent.
*We don't have the choice, unless, the fear has been 'conquered' or detached
*from.
I don´t see the problem. If I´m at a dangerous situation of course
there will be fear in the ambient and I´ll feel fear. It will help me to be
more alert.
<Listening to the fear is giving it more power. Feeding it so it becomes us,
<instead of a re-action out of a held to past trauma. All fear is fear of
the
<future. A projection of imagination and/or unprocessed memory. Once the
<event is happening the fear is gone.
I don´t see fear a something negative. What I see negative is
"resisting" it. Because doing so you only "repress" and put it in the
subconscious instead of releasing it. Fear have a plasticity. When it works
well, the fear comes as fast as it goes. It´s like a child, he can be
frightened and some minutes later he is not anymore. When we "fight" against
it, it slowly lose that plasticity and then it starts storing in the system
blocking it.
<Someone said recently that all fear is rooted in death. Further someone
said
<all fear is fear of letting go. I agree to both.
When you let go, you don´t offer a resistance to fear nor you
"conquer" it.
<To me it feels like there is a 'fear centre'. The closer I live to this,
the
<more fearful I am in everything I do. More fears come up and poke me. I am
<less in control. Re-acting instead of acting. If I am filled within and
<grounded then these fears are not there (at least I don't notice them).
They
<don't come to me. If I could dissolve this fear centre today I would. But
<all I have learnt tells me it takes time.
I think you think is good without fear and bad with fear. But the
fact is that fear is basic for living. If fear disappeared it would be like
pain disapering, you would be like dumb, smashing your head from one place
to another.
<The other possibility is to come to terms with fear itself so it is
<integrated and not feared (resisted). Not be swayed by it. Live in the fear
<energy. But it's powerful and dark to me. Maybe both things will happen
<together. The day I accept fear, then my fear will be no longer.
I think this is the idea. Come back to a healthy relation with
fear. Stop fighting, resisting and judging it, so it can come back to it´s
natural state.
<I do believe that bodily death and ego death have some commonalities. In so
<much as ego death means to have come to terms with bodily death. There is
<nothing to loose, nothing to be held on to. No ego, no fear.
I agree that ego death means come to terms with death. But at he
same time I don´t think there is too much change. You stop being an
impediment for yourself, but if you are near a bear you will feel fear the
same.
<I used to think that fear and love were opposites. In me they exist
together
<but I don't believe if I conquer fear then I conquer love. It is an unknown
<if this is based in duality. I think love is outside of duality. Maybe fear
<is the basis of duality itself. And there is the real dichotomy.
It could be the basis for duality is the desire of "manipulation"
of one men over others.
> *Destruction to me is the ultimate expansion.
>
> I think destruction can lead you to a great expansion, but a very
> traumatic one. With a lot of risks.
<Be grateful :)
Indeed, I am. :).
Chau!
elargonauto
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