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Recieved: 2003/09/03 16:29
Subject: RE: [K-list] Philosophical question
From: Rich
On 2003/09/03 16:29, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
> Well, I just could understand it absolutely for a second and some
> minutes afterwards. A sensation of very high intensity. Personally I give
> it
> a great level of acuracy, and I don´t do this with too many things.
Can you Surrender that idea ;)
Persist in the felt knowing and out from the intellect.
> Since two years all the zone of the stomach has slowly expanded and
> sensibility has gone back slowly. These last months I have been more and
> more amazed of the losts of things we feel with the stomach. :). And at my
> energy healings stomach, chest and head where the principal places. But I
> didn´t knew it was called the power chakra. :). And it was so important,
> at
> first what you think of the stomach is ... well it serves fot eating. :).
I used to do an exercise called 'feel-its' where extending from the stomach
to feel things outside of myself, would pick up perceptions about what is
... a deeper knowing and an idea of the cause of things to be how they are.
Not quite as deep as empathy from the heart. Considering this again it seems
almost like a mix of the lower part of the heart and top of the power
chakra. Seems a more intelligent combination. With the heart there is not
the intelligence of knowing what is ahead, resulting in a tendency to be
filled with unwanted junk. The Power chakra seems to give this perception.
Almost like time travelling :)
> All my problems came of not listening it. It just to tell me, don´t
> do
> this, I just followed the ideas I had on my head.
It takes time for it to clear. I miss it when I'm under pressure at work or
not had chance to do clearing. Old habits die hard.
> Yep. I know it was a incorrect way of telling it. I would have said
> that freedom is something I see as good and precious and enjoy seeing free
> people. If "I have to be free" than it becomes and obligation and it sop
> being freedom. :).
How do you like your freedom? With a glass of orange juice and buttered
toast?
Are prisoners freer than people who are a slave to the rat-race?
> That have made me think something for a moment. But I think the
> feeling is not like a desire, I get this I feel better, the idea is that
> it
> make you feel sad to see someone sad.
When my granddad died I did not know how to feel. I wondered why everyone
was looking so strange and not talking with laughter and telling stories. I
took on the others feeling. This was how I came to know sadness and made it
my own.
> You would like that person to be all
> right. But from another point of view, you know it doesn´t matter sad is
> happy, happy is sad. ?¿.
Yep... When I see lack, it is when I am not whole in my self.
> You die you life, and verything continues to be
> the
> same, there is no change.
There's a lovely saying here which had been expanded upon by a very groovy
artist I had the joy of meeting a few weeks ago... His name is John Gallery
(http://www9.plala.or.jp/johngallery/JohnGalleryEnglish.html
http://www.hobotraveler.com/096artistchangmai.shtml).
The saying is Same Same... When someone agrees or sees the same way.
John Gallery puts it like this 'Same, Same but different.'
Rich
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