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Recieved: 2003/09/02 05:22
Subject: RE: [K-list] Philosophical question
From: Rich
On 2003/09/02 05:22, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Elargonauto
> I have two currents of thoughts I know are true ( or mostly true)
> but I don´t find the way to join them together. It could be someone can
> give
> me an idea.
>
> The deep one ... some months ago I had a non-dual insight ( the
> only
> thing like this I have ever experienced) where at a moment I could
> understad
> truly that " Life and death are exactly the same". No difference, death =
> live. I am sure about this. I know in reality there is no difference.
:)
> The other one, and that I usually express more. Is that we are
> part
> of the whole, that hamony is reached through non-intervention and , as
> more
> harmony more hapiness. ( In a short, :) ).
To me it feels like the first of your 'currents of thought' is a felt
knowing.
When I look at something and get an unfaltering perception / understanding
then I am clear in that area. There is no more karma to clear.
For example it might be a relationship from a past lover. When I look and
see clutter, differing emotions and images then I know I am not seeing how
things really are but my minds junk relating to that thing. When I look and
there is no emotion or bodily feedback, but just clear view then I know.
I would say you are not part of the whole... but you are the whole....
I'm wondering if you could be inferring the middle path... Happiness could
loosely be described as fulfilment. Being filled within. Not needing, nor
resisting.
The middle path is much to do about right action. MAS writes very clearly on
this in her essay on the Power chakra and it's relation to discernment.
(http://www.kundalini-teacher.com/chakras/power.html).
> So if live and death are the same, why I still fell pleasure
> living?, why I defend myself physically and mentally?,
The body has survival instincts. As astute and attuned as we may become the
body's still home.
Interesting I have found of late that my Identities (what I am being / what
I believe I am... if I am not nothing) relate back to survival patterns and
protection of the body. I am sure there is a point where the body and spirit
can be in perfect harmony continuously. Like they are one and each other.
> why I want to have
> a
> free live and helps other got as much freedom as they can?.
You don't *have* to. This is a trap unto self. It is believing you are
helping self from helping others.
> If life and
> death are the same, where is the difference in being rich, poor, have
> food,
> don´t have it, be happy, sad etc ...? Personally I don´t know how to fit
> it
> in my daily life.
Our identification and belief in their power to make us feel better from
them. It is illusion. However the body's natural tendencies should not be
ignored. Cleaning the ego reveals the body's natural instincts, moving into
harmony with the universe.
> I know It is not necesary to understand it or anything, that the
> solution of the puzzle will come ( or not) at the moment it just comes.
Being the puzzle is not easy to see. Alternative viewpoints and a desire to
surrender can make it sharper. In time it can be discarded.
> But
> I have always had the urge to undertsand things until everything is clear
> and would apreciate any insight to solve this loose end. That I think (
> after writing this, and reading it sometimes) that is the Loose End.
I don't know if this makes a difference.
> Thanks to anyone brave enough to swim on this tricky theme.
> :).
Welcome.
Rich
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