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Recieved: 2003/09/01 14:33
Subject: [K-list] trying to talk about awakening/Beat Up
From: elargonauto
On 2003/09/01 14:33, elargonauto posted thus to the K-list:
<I can relate. Oh dear K List friends, you have no idea what I just put
myself through starting <with a wacko, right wing extremist <Christian group
who held a protest in my town last week. I <was on my to the bus stop when I
encountered the Westboro <Baptist "Church" picketing the taping <of the Bob
Hope tribute with big signs saying "Fags Burn In Hell" "Hope in Hell" "God
<Hates <America" and "Thank God for 9/11." They are an infamous hate cult
that believes that to gain <salvation you must know <God's wrath and Satan's
fire.
Well, writted like that it is impresive but there are some people ( I would
say a lot) that think like that at a lower level. Practicaly all the people
that have a spiritual practice somehow thinks like that. They defend that
you have to make "effort" until you get to the point where you can "let
yourself go". Personaly I think that is the hard path, and being the soft
... I would choose the soft. :).Of course these people as you write it (
because I didn´t knew nothing about them) is much more at a higher degreee.
But the seed is here and there ...
<She treated us to a number on the piano... the evening was wonderful...
then she saw my Wicca <books and she changed her <tune. Her voice lowered
and she said, "I think I better go now..." <Last night we talked on the
phone and things disintegrated into <- "You say you had this <spiritual
awakening, yet you still have these vehicles of Satan in you house... you
are (this) <you are (that) <......" and so on. I've known this person for
years, we used to date casually <and have always been open about everything.
The <day before she mentioned how she always felt <insecure about her looks.
I'm mention that I had a beautiful dream in which at one <point we <made
love. She just smiled and it seemed to sit well with her. Now she says I
"violated" her <body with "unclean <thoughts." That dream was real and it
meant a lot to be able to tell her <about it. Now I'm some kind spiritual
rapist.... give me a <break! I feel used. I was attracted <to this person
for a number of reasons. The first was genuinely spiritual. She really does
have <the light in her eyes. She still does, but religious superstition is
tormenting her.
Somehow I feel a little on her side ( pleaso don´t thow me too many
rocks :) ). Personally as I have been advancing in the kundalini process I
am getting more and more aware of the gifts we have (by nature, let God
apart. :) ). and how the human manipulate and destroy them trying to fullfil
his narrow-minded goals. I used to be a science fiction fan, but now,
everytime I hear about "genetic manipulation" I feel like vomiting. Of
course, If I see someone running ( when is clear his body is telling "stop!,
what do you want, kill me ?" or I see a friend taking meds because he have a
cold or a stomach pain in hope that that will heal him ... I just think,
well, it is his/her life, do with it what you please. But If I where really
sensibilizated as your friend could be, It could be I just couldn´t stand
it. And everytime I saw someone doing something like that It would made me
feel sick.
Of course there will be a lot of "made ideas" too, I guess, but
nevertheless I think there is at least "drop" of truth in her reactions.
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Changing to my own experience, my problem in general is scientific
eskepticism. Practically all my friends are science childrens. :). It is all
the way to the other side. Here, there are not any problem manipulating
anything or doing any kind of practice (except if you believe in something
different than the power of mind :) ) ... there is a believing in science
and mind power. And the worst of all is the feeling " I believe in science
prior my own feelings".So everything wierd is just imagination. I think that
if someday I started to fly, people just would look to the floor, all of
them thinking at the same time ... this is my imagination.This is a clear
proof that someone can be very intelligent and at the same time don´t know a
thing about life. As It was my case not so long ago. :).
Chao.
elargonauto.
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