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Recieved: 2003/08/31 21:24
Subject: Re: [K-list] trying to talk about awakening/Beat Up
From: Sylvia
On 2003/08/31 21:24, Sylvia posted thus to the K-list:
on 1/09/03 5:53 AM, Paul Perner at ravensdawn AT_NOSPAM earthlink.net wrote:
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>> [Original Message]
>> From: elargonauto <elargonauto AT_NOSPAM ya.com
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>> But I?m getting tired of the game and I?m starting to prefer not to
> tell
>> anything and let them take their conclusions from what they see directly
>> with their own eyes. You save long talks. :).
>
>
> I can relate.
>
> Oh dear K List friends, you have no idea what
> I just put myself through starting with a
> wacko, right wing extremist Christian group
> who held a protest in my town last week.
>
> I was on my to the bus stop when I encountered
> the Westboro Baptist "Church" picketing the
> taping of the Bob Hope tribute with big signs
> saying "Fags Burn In Hell" "Hope in Hell" "God
> Hates America" and "Thank God for 9/11."
>
> They are an infamous hate cult that believes
> that to gain salvation you must know God's wrath
> and Satan's fire. People say just ignore them,
> but it's hard when they're right in your face.
>
> I had a brief, restrained, but very unpleasant
> chat with one of them.... it left a queasy feeling
> in my stomach for hours. It just so happened that
> that day I was on way to visit a Christian
> friend.
>
> This friend is a beautiful, talented singer who has
> gigantic guilt issues about having gone out of the
> closet as a lesbian and she believes she was a
> victim of Satanic ritual abuse (I've looked into
> this and her story doesn't match up, but she
> clings to it and if you try to help her out of it,
> that means that you, too, must be in league with
> The Dark One).
>
> Anyway, my telling her about the picket signs
> pushed a lot of buttons. She's a modern person
> on one side and a trembling fundamentalist on the
> other.
>
> She dropped me off at my house and I invited her
> in (she has visited before). My girlfriend was
> home and was excited to meet a true legend in the
> song writing world (her CD is a classic). She
> treated us to a number on the piano... the evening
> was wonderful... then she saw my Wicca books and
> she changed her tune. Her voice lowered and she
> said, "I think I better go now..."
>
> Last night we talked on the phone and things
> disintegrated into - "You say you had this spiritual
> awakening, yet you still have these vehicles of
> Satan in you house... you are (this) you are (that)
> ......" and so on.
>
> I've known this person for years, we used to
> date casually and have always been open about
> everything. The day before she mentioned how she
> always felt insecure about her looks. I'm mention
> that I had a beautiful dream in which at one point
> we made love. She just smiled and it seemed to
> sit well with her.
>
> Now she says I "violated" her body with "unclean
> thoughts." That dream was real and it meant a
> lot to be able to tell her about it. Now I'm some
> kind spiritual rapist.... give me a break!
>
> I feel used. I was attracted to this person for
> a number of reasons. The first was genuinely spiritual.
> She really does have the light in her eyes. She still
> does, but religious superstition is tormenting her.
>
> I shouldn't try to change her. I been down this
> road with her before... but this time is the
> last. I'll be a part of a long list of people
> (including a couple record companies) she's
> alienated.
>
> What a strange holiday weekend it's been.
> The shouts of those fundie protesters are
> fading from my mind. Summer's ending and
> I need a long lazy, afternoon to do
> nothing with.
>
> Sometimes I feel like this whole human
> race are a bunch of psychos (myself
> included). My heart goes out to the plants and
> animals that have to share this biosphere
> with us.
>
> In closing, I just want to thank the good
> people of the K list for being here. As
> much as my awakening freed me from old
> baggage, I'm still human and have a need
> to communicate.
>
> Dreams, work, pleasure and pain... I'll take
> it. Just spare me the hate and fear.
>
> Love (oh, yes, love),
>
> Paul
>
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