To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/08/17 22:01
Subject: Re: [K-list] Sharing (was Meditation)
From: hbrost
On 2003/08/17 22:01, hbrost posted thus to the K-list:
Holly wrote:
"I have no doubt that the inability to speak about what is happening to us
contributes to the paranoia some of us go through. I hope you feel relief
expressing yourself here even if the feedback is disappointing -- that's the
idea, I
think. But I also have come to believe that the isolation of awakening
itself, the fact that no one can experience our experience with us, is part
of the
cauldron that cooks the ego to a fine transparency. We want people to KNOW
about these amazing and sometimes awful events that are happening to us, but
even when we tell them, it is unsatisfying. "
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Dear Holly and Julie,
Holly, you've written incredibly insightful words in your last two e-mails.
Your last e-mail regarding understanding of the uselessness of rituals,
meditation and so-forth, for periods of time, resonates with me. If I am,
in fact, interacting and co-creating with the Universe and that which is
what I Am, how in the world does one communicate with most who believe
everything is outside of themselves? Which, almost by definition, is the
dogma of most "religions" out there.
Unfortunately, I alienated a good friend (?) and the pastor of the Methodist
church by becoming so fed up with his inability to understand what I was
trying to tell him (for over two years now), I told him the Judeo/Christian
viewpoint was BS. I did! And it actually is, only I could have used better
words. I could have said "dogma" instead of "BS!" ;-)
When I offend a person of "religion," they speak about PATHS. UGH. Paths.
A path is a path until the path doesn't exist or until one becomes lost ON
that path and realizes it wasn't a path to begin with! When Kundalini hits,
at least I realized that paths don't exist. Everything is in flux because a
path is only a definition for the moment, usually from an egoistic point of
view. I've tried to break down and break down ...and continue to break down
everything I used to believe in, questioning all along the "path" why I
believed in it anyway. Based upon what I've found inside? The path always
changes and perhaps the surrender to our God/dess inside coupled with the
trust that comes with "knowing" and the K process, leads us to peace.
With every e-mail I read on this list, I learn more about myself. After
reading your post, Julie, I remembered being taken to the emergency room, at
age 20, for intense pain and spasms in my lower back/pelvis area. I had to
convince my husband, at the time, to take me! Nothing was found --
absolutely nothing. I forgot this episode until I read your e-mail.
Certainly I haven't experienced any "satisfaction" in telling anyone about
what's been going on with me. Or it's dilute or even off-putting. It's
like explaining an OBE, or even a lucid dream to someone who hasn't
experienced it. Experience. There ya go, right? Can you imagine what St.
Paul or St. Bernadette or even Jesus went through? ;-) Go figure! Here,
we're experiencing the stuff of miracles and no one believes...
Back to same thing -- change what is inside of YOU and change the world.
Don't even try to explain to those whose "ears are closed and eyes are
blind!" I believe they will wake up "in time" and until then, my
responsibility is to my Self.
Love,
Hety
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