To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/08/10 04:58
Subject: Re: [K-list] Fighting desire
From: hbrost
On 2003/08/10 04:58, hbrost posted thus to the K-list:
Rick writes:
Desire is the greatest obstacle on the path to enlightenment.
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Dear Rick,
We've been through this all before, right? Something is stuck in this
"desire" space? When you think about it, isn't the desire to negate the
desire a desire? For some reason, I keep coming up with the same answer, as
I did before: We are human beings; we have desires. It's what drives us
on. Desire could equate with hope, no?
Your dialogue could actually be attributed to Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson
or Saddam Hussein. Please, don't take offense, just take note. How is the
Catholic church any different in squelching "desire" than are activist
Muslims? One will demand penance, the other burkas. Are these actually
solutions to desire? So, and why aren't they?
Because appearing in this human body, this human meat suit, we all possess
the same feelings, emotions, DESIRES, as every human feels. Jesus felt a
desire to continue living, at the end, in a conversation with God at
Gethsemane. Or, if not a desire to live, a desire not to go through a
crucifixtion.
Rick, nothing needs to be tamed. That's the talk of ego. The ego/s will be
awakened -- in time. It's not for us, now, to be impatient. If you will,
we live a dream, an illusion. We can change the dream any time we want by
deciding what we want. If you decide to attain "enlightenment, " then do
so. Everyone else will catch up, it's not your call. In time, they will
realize as well. God has nothing but time. ;-) And, for that matter, it's
all happened.
Freedom, to me, is knowing that I only have to change what's inside of me.
I don't need to care about anyone else. Yes, that's tough sometimes, but
true. Change what's inside of you and you change the world. This is what
the great Gandhi taught. And he did! ;-)
Love,
Hety
The beast needs to be tamed, and yet the temptation not to give it up is
great.
Surrender to the Self yes, but not desire, desire is part of the ego, part
of
our false sense of Self. Surrendering to the ego is what society does,
surrender
to the Self is what the mystic is.
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