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Recieved: 2003/08/01 10:04
Subject: Re: [K-list] Forward from A/ breathing
From: Richard Friedel
On 2003/08/01 10:04, Richard Friedel posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Contributor,
If you are referring to my posting on "diaphragmology" I was among other
things emphasizing the importance of freeing oneself from western
medical concepts about the "function of the nose" and of a true
interpretation of Indian sources. The westernized theories seem to block
and sabotage any true appreciation of any sort of breathing exercises
and the gateway to spirituality. The pupil is just hamstrung.
As an example of such an incorrect western approach, see my positing of
25.7.03 here
The nose is only for "humidifying, warming and
cleaning the breath" is the standard pontification in textbooks. More
tragically there is a tendency for books on yoga to "explain pranayama
in scientific terms" and hence make nonsense of it. In my copy of the
"Science of Breath" (Swami Rama, Rudolph Ballentine and Alan Hymes) the
short chapter on "nose function and energy" completely ignores nasal
resistance to airflow. With this supposed enlightenment folks can say
that alternate nostril breathing and ujjayi are mere superstition.
I think once one has swallowed this bitter pill ("misconception about
technical details of breathing") the road is free. Greetings, Richard
Druout AT_NOSPAM aol.com wrote:
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> Forward from the_pill_uneed AT_NOSPAM yahoo.com
>
> hey,
>
> reading through all the diaphragm improving excersices, and the subsequent
> discussion, i am again feeling lost. firstly because, i had learnt that a seeker
> , takes the first important step , the most basic in the process of realizing
> the truth, by attaining the breathless state. i.e, feed the whole body with
> the prana. instead of, by lungs and heart. this is supposed to relax your
> organs , improving their longetivity, and secondly, (more importantly) facilitates
> the begining of the "actual" spiritual progress by abhyasa (practice) and
> vairagya(detachment). it is said that till then the yogi is nowhere close to
> starting out with the affair of seeking god. i can see it happening in my body.
> "forgetting" the urge to breathe.(because i dont feel the necessity to breathe)
> as the energy manifests itself from the absolute within me.,, but since im just
> a beginner, i restart to breathe within a short peroid. (restart, not gasp
> for breath).
>
> now why is there then so much emphasis on strengthening the diaphragm?? while
> actually, u need to focus on the rising prana within you as the necessity and
> urge to breathe dwindles.
>
> i figured out that u focus on ur breath to get better aquainted (develop a
> better relationship ) with prana. .so the diaphraghm strengthening excercises
> are to regulate and teach u to "naturally" attune ur breathe till it unites with
> prana and then use the prana (life force-energry) to get a control of ur
> breath. and attain the breathless state. it is only through this can u destroy
> ahamkar tatwa,the veil of ego. and only then can u think of becoming a
> learner.till then it is just an ego trip. and it is after this that the actual fights
> with "demons" and other negative abstractions occur in ur mind.( where u need to
> at times spend days in battle.)
>
> ... the reason i have written this whole story is because i dont practice any
> diaphraghm strengthening excercises at all. but still i can feel recalling
> the urge to breathe at longer nad longer periods of time, each time. bhavin
> desai said to me that the breathless state is an advanced stage. and ive just
> started with all this like yesterday.so im confused about whether im on the right
> track, in my concepts or i am just fucking with time concocting and
> subsequently going in circles. taking my life on a ride. with grand promises.
>
> please do clear my confusion, i shall be obliged.as usual. and more so this
> time.
>
> untill soon,
>
> A.
>
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