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Subject: RE: [K-list] Dream wars and Jung
From: R

Hey there everyone,

Most of my dream conflicts were with things like winged gargoyles, shuffling
unseen creatures from behind me, fanged water creatures with huge eyes
feeding on shipwrecked people. Some were only icy cold blasts of air that
surrounded me, sometimes lifting me into the air and throwing me around.
After meeting Jim I have found that the entities took on a human form only
powerfully magical and elusive. All of these could very well be aspects of
myself projected to my unconscious from my subconscious mind. For instance
just the fear of not wanting to see one usually woke me. I can see how
these all coalesce. I do feel that in facing them as a warrior and not an
analyst, would help the healing begin at a more primal level and therefore
deeper, base level allowing a solid psychological healing? I try to
experience first and then analyze second.
I don't really know of these things I am an electrical technician by trade.
:o)

Rodney

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Dear Susan, List,

SAC wrote:
> Let them kill and destroy you.

It is quite interesting how many different views on
these topic coexist. Both extremes - defend and
surrender - are comprehensible represented. Your
view seems to be more Jung oriented and is a very
promising one for me.

Quote from: http://www.crhsc.umontreal.ca/dreams/znm.htm :
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Jung believed that nightmares, like most other types of dreams, serve a
compensatory function. If people became too flippant or perfunctory in
their conscious attitude, then a dream could enhance the situation and
compensate for that waking state in a way that produced a nightmare
(Jung, 1930, p. 205). Similarly, nightmares could "shock" a dreamer in
order to impart messages difficult for that person to accept. Traumatic
nightmares, however, are not viewed in Jungian dream theory as being
compensatory because they are largely unrelated to the dreamer's
conscious attitude and "conscious assimilation of the fragment [of the
psyche] reproduced by the dream does not . . . put an end to the
disturbance which determined the dreams" (Jung, cited in Mattoon, 1978,
p.142).
-+-+-+-+

Thanks for your post. I will try to integrate that when entering the
next evil battlefield ;-)

L&L,
Lars


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