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Recieved: 2003/07/22 23:35
Subject: Re: [K-list] protection
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent


On 2003/07/22 23:35, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:



At 01:20 PM 22/07/03, Kathleen Schramm PR Dept wrote:

>This may not be the format for such a discussion. I do
>think that when one is seeking spiritual
>enlightenment, that a fully encompassing picture of
>the spiritual world is beneficial. Of course, that is
>my opinion. I don't want to introduce any fears, as
>this state of being exists whether one sees, or
>believes, it or not.

     Hello, Katharine:

       I agree with you about the existence of these beings. I spend time
clearing them from people, as part of my work.
       I find your methods to be a little disempowering for the seeker. The
path of Kundalini leads you to recognise yourself as All that Is. To see
that all events in life are self created, "Thou art God." Or "I attract
that which occurs." What you see is yourself reflected, and the entities
that are attracted to you, are usually resonant with some issue within you.
An attitude of victimhood, of needing protection, does not serve.

    "There is no such thing as a problem, without a gift for you, in its
hands. We seek problems, because we need their gifts." R.Bach.

       Free Will is Goddess law, so these critters cannot come in, without
consent on some level... as you consented, by choosing to play with an
Oiuja board.

      Often the entities can be cleared without needing to identify the
original choice which invited them in. What stray thought you had at age 5
that invited -possession, is not important. Most entities are like lint,
byproducts of daily life, and can be cleared without analysis. Similar to
how karma can be cleared by conscious detached observation, in meditation.

   I find that choosing to use a lot of protection, is giving energy to
fear, which attracts even more entities... whereas, seeing them as part of
the Divine, reflects their own truth back to them.

    Everything is Goddess, everything is made of love... but people and
critters forget. Reminding them, is enough to change them.
http://kundalini-teacher.com/guidance/clearent.html

     Protection can be useful at the beginning of the path, when one is in
duality... but later on, protection just creates more of the same
separation that K. seeks to clear.

>In some cases "ignorance is bliss." I have read
>accounts of people practicing ecstatic breathing
>techniques, and ending up with emotional or
>psychological problems. The following may be the
>component they were missing in their search for
>enlightenment.

    My experience is that the techniques tend to bring up more karmic
baggage than the individual is able to process at once, which results in
resistance...which leads to problems.

>In that I do readings, and see psychically I "see"
>these beings. They repeatedly tell the drug addict
>that he/she needs a fix. That is all they have to do,
>and they do it well. They frighten the addict, or
>create paranoia which turns them in the direction of
>their dealer. The addict beings attempt to draw off
>the high of the drug addict, and can only do this by
>encouraging them to get a "fix." (this is the same
>with alcoholic beings)

      It is a chicken and egg thing. The dissatisfaction with life that
leads people to experiment with hard drugs, is within them first. The
entities just show up to enjoy the banquet, and of course, they don't want
the party to end.

>On the other hand, there are beings that do associate
>themselves with peace pipes (often marijuana), peyote,
>and other mind-expanding drugs.

     The marihuana entity doesn't like for the party to end, either... but
the herb itself is not physically addictive like other drugs.

>Also there are beings that affect us when we are
>stressed, say as a result of major life changes. They
>can affect us by introducing the illnesses.

    Yikes. Our thinking on this, is very different.
    Power and karma follow responsibility. Blaming anything outside of
yourself, for what occurs, is giving power away to that. Making it be God
for you, responsible for what you created. Believing an entity more
powerful than God-dess within you, is really disempowering, in the long
term. Realization is not compatible with victimhood.

>A few months ago did a reading for a woman that was
>physically impacted by an incurable illness. I could
>see that the illness came as a result of 3 tragic
>events that occurred in rapid succession in her life.
>
>This illness was introduced into her system by a being
>with matching energy to her emotional grief.
>
>This woman is very psychic. If she had been using
>protection, such as a simple bubble of Christ light,
>this would not be her problem now.

     Good heavens, I hope you did not tell her that!! Ack. Those if-then
statements are always an investment in fear. The past just Is.
    In my experience, the body creates or attracts illness, as a last
resort when when its subtler messages are not being heard... although there
can be other purposes. Certainly, her unreleased emotional baggage and the
stress could result in illness, stress depletes the immune system... but
why bring an entity into it? Why blame the entity, and give it Divine power
in that way?

     There are many on this list, Hillary included, who do not believe in
entities, at all... seeing them always as an aspect of themselves,
relfected, and preferring to look for cause within themselves. I think that
is a wiser and more grounded perspective than what you are espousing...
myself, I take a middle path. Entities exist, but they are a side effect or
symptom, not a cause of what Is.

     It used to be thought, in ancient times, that flies were born
spontaneously from rotting meat... till someone thought to conduct an
experiment, and let fresh meat decay in a fly-proof container... Flies are
attracted to rotting meat, to breed, and some entities are attracted to
resonant (rotting) karma within the individual. They are not the cause of
it. Take the food source away, and the entities disappear too. Simply
protecting the karmic issues from parasites, won't stop it from stinking.

     A related metaphor: modern science in some places has returned to the
idea of using maggots to clear gangrenous wounds more effectively than
surgery. The maggots eat the dead flesh and leave the wound almost
antiseptically clean, so it can be healed. Some entities perform a similar
function. Sometimes I preform a similar function, too... devour and
transmute. Demonsalad sandwiches and poltergiest pie.

>Besides "being" energy, people throw out energy which
>we can unknowingly embrace as our own. For instance,
>you can go the mall feeling pretty good and happy with
>the world. At some point you discover that you are not
>feeling all that joyful, and begin to search your mind
>as to why you are feeling down. You finally discover
>something to attribute the strange change in attitude,
>and say to yourself "I didn't know that bothered me so
>much..." At that point you have claimed ownership to
>this foreign energy.

     Most kundalites are empathic, and experience this to some degree...
but their own energy that they are throwing out to others, is the cause.
Getting into an attitude of victimhood, only makes it worse.
http://kundalini-teacher.com/chakras/empathy.html

>The truth is that our aura can be like Velcro. We pick
>up energy all over the place. If we are not totally in
>tune with what our own pure energy feels like (which
>most of us aren't), we can easily be fooled into
>thinking that foreign energy is our creation.

    In the lower chakras there are boundaries, and individuality, and these
must be respected...but the higher chakras know no boundaries, "I am All
that Is." The foreign energy is our own creation, as is everything...

>Giving sympathy to another, instead of empathy,
>immediately creates a receptacle for a cord to attach
>to the sympathizer, from the one in distress.

      Sympathy is hierarchical. It is a pedestal, "I am better off than
you." Karma flows uphill, following responsibility. Of course there are
cords. Judging someone as being in need, instead of seeing them as the
God-dess architect of their own life and circumstances, will always create
a cord.

       Empathy, is "I am you", so there is no pedestal, and no distance for
a cord to travel from one to another... but empathy with someone's stuff
makes it yours. Contagious.

>Flu is often brought on by negative "energy." Sending
>anything back to who it belongs to be worked out in
>love and light, will have you discovering that your
>flu symptoms lift immediately.

    :) Who does it belong to? Surrender is the requirement of Kundalini.
Blaming someone else for how you feel, is a no-go. Better to look within
yourself, at why you chose to attract that result.

>I understand your concept of letting the energies take
>care of themselves, but one is in a more empowered
>position if one chooses to use spiritual tools for
>protection.

     If you think you need protection, then you are already disempowered.

>Years later they discussed the "kitty" and told me of
>her allergic reaction. We wondered if perhaps this
>"kitty" was the reason her allergic reaction continued
>for so long. Perhaps if she had known how to use
>spiritual tools of protection, she would not have
>suffered so.

     A wonderful healer cleared many of my allergies. Her thinking is that
when the body is in trauma, it may associate some harmless substance with
the trauma and mark it as a poison or toxin, in future. What are allergies,
but the immune system getting confused? Clearing the emotional connection,
released the allergy. The connection to the kitty probably dates to the
same trauma that caused the allergy. A symptom, not a cause.

>Well, that is my "case" for using spiritual
>protection. If one doesn't see with psychic vision, it
>is hard to imagine all the energies and beings all
>around which can impact one emotionally, mentally, and
>physically.

   What you see, physically or spiritually, is yourself -your beliefs-
reflected. Your writing shows that your beliefs and reality is
duality-based... and attachment to these ideas will eventually have to be
surrendered, if you are to attain your realization.

      Love is All that Is. These experiences appear, to offer you an
opportunity to express love or fear. In choosing protection, you are
choosing fear... try something different... just love them. Love them
all... and watch them change.

      Unconditional love creates an astonishing immunity... and that is the
secret of Ascension. Ascension is moving out of the duality based world.
You cannot take these beliefs with you, if you want to go there. You have
to leave them behind at the gate. To use a biblical phrase... only those
who are without fear may pass under the fiery sword of the angel who guards
paradise. Perfect love and perfect trust. Goddess has it handled.

      Nice having you on the list. We don't always have to agree, there
would be no discussion, if we did!


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