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Recieved: 2003/07/21 15:16
Subject: Re: [K-list] Astral Projection
From: Julie D
On 2003/07/21 15:16, Julie D posted thus to the K-list:
From: "Rick Mayweather"
Subject: [K-list] Astral Projection
> Can anyone do it?
Yes, I can. Well I sort of can. That is, I usually wake up in a dream.
It started last year when a guy I was working with came into the office with
a pamphlet and asked me if I wanted to do this course on Astral Projection
with him. We'd talked about stuff that our co-workers thought was pretty
weird before. We talked for a while and decided we'd do it together. He'd
had two experiences where he'd walked into the living room and heard other's
talking and been able to repeat their words back to them later much to their
amazement. I'd had a couple of experiences too. The first was when I was
about 19, looking back I had several strange happenings at this point in my
life that I managed to skillfully rationalize away. Anyway I'd been reading
a teenage girl type magazine that had an article about Astral Travel that
gave instructions. I thought what a load of rubbish. If the author had
been there I would have offered her my other leg so she could pull that too.
I thought I'm going to try it to *prove* it doesn't work. So I lay on my
bed and vividly imagined I was on top of my wardrobe. Suddenly I was there
looking down at me lying on the bed and connected by a gold thread. I
panicked and was back in my body with a pounding heart. I was really
rattled. Nevertheless I managed to convince myself that I had fallen asleep
and dreamed it within 3 days. The next time was when I was 27 and gave
birth to my son. I did the natural type thing in a brand new concept called
a birthing centre. I did it as the native aborigines did it -squatting. As
his body went down I went up and looked down at myself and my doctor,
Barbara, trying to hand me the baby. I raced back to take my brand new son.
Afterwards I was filled with a manic energy that had me running for 5 hours
and experiencing no movement as torture. I had to stay still a number of
time for several medical procedures. Minutes took on the dimension of
hours.
Anyway Les and I never got around to doing the course but the thought of
doing it hung around. During this period my guidance and the gentle
companionship that I was so used to became really distant. So the next 8
week course that started I finished up doing by myself. This course started
in May last year. I had tried to do it about 8 years earlier just after my
K awoke. I'd always panick when my body started to vibrate which would pull
me out of the trance like state that I now recognise as a pre condition to
conscious astral travelling.
I have hesitated to tell you that the group I did it with in person has a
web site where the 8 week course is available free of charge. The reason I
hesitate is that I think basically the group has mass confusion happening
and I don't want to give any indication that I agree with anything they say.
They have some very good techniques and some very bad ones. They also
confuse their master's personal symbology and personal interpretation as
literal steps on this spiritual path. This clouds a lot of what they teach.
The groups name is mysticweb and they claim to have a Gnostic basis. I do
believe that their is a number of steps that are taken on the spiritual
path, and I might write about this at a latter time, but they are not
specific and the symbols that are thrown into consciousness will vary from
individual to individual. The war of the opposites is just one of these
steps and a fairly early one. This group seems to be caught here. I hope
that anyone who decides to give their techniques a try will use the utmost
discrimination and discernment in everything they read on this site. I did
3 of their courses and the Astral one was by far the best. I followed their
instructions to the letter while disregarding much of what they wrote on
good and evil. Their information on Tantra is highly suspect and, to me,
seems guilt inducing and life denying. I'm happy to talk to anyone about my
impressions off list if they are interested.
The techniques on the astral course worked for me and I had my first
experience 4 weeks later. I had been doing the practices on a daily basis.
By this stage I'd also kept a dream journal for about 7 years on a fairly
consistent basis. My personal sub conscious symbology had developed into a
type of language that my sub conscious could communicate with me with a fair
amount of accuracy. This time their was no fear and their was a feeling of
certainty that if I put in the effort it would happen. Doubt was absent. I
was also motivated to find my guidance seeing as it was not finding me too
often at that time.
Mainly what I do is wake up in dreams. This is often called Lucid Dreaming.
At some point in the dream I realise that I am dreaming and can act with
volition. I thought that I would learn a lot by doing this, Masters and
schools came readily to mind, and this hasn't been the case. I have had a
lot of fun though - moonwalking, manifesting objects at will, flying, moving
in and out of what appears as matter. The sensory experience seems more
real than everyday reality. I feel more, see more - everything is more
intense ...and real. Am I a butterfly dreaming I'm a man - type
situation!
Towards the end of the course I had two experiences where I moved directly
from doing a practice to being on the other side without loosing
consciousness. This is the only time I have done this, except for the
earlier episodes already mentioned. By the end of the course four weeks
later I had had 7 experiences including one where I tried to find my guide.
I was in space and called out the name I have several times in a very loud
voice. Suddenly everything began to spin (like some 3rd rate sci fi movie)
and I was hooked. I thought I was travelling directly to him. *I* had done
it! I came to a standstill directly in front of a life size, beautifully
framed, full length portrait rather than an interactive image. I had a
strong emotional reaction and woke up. I felt like I'd been trying to push
the river and I had gone to far and I was getting too caught up in images.
I'd forgotten "Your will, not mine." I sort of lost my taste for astral
travel after this and stopped doing the practices. Nevertheless the lucid
dreaming has continued at a rate of about 1 a week. When K is more active
and intense these can increase to 3 or 4 times a week. I record these in my
dream journal with a symbol next to them. There has been no sitting down
for coffee and a chat with the archetypes for me though. Doing these types
of things for direct spiritual learning was what I expected to happen that
hasn't yet. The fun I have is a very good compensation though.
Last week, I had a pretty amazing lucid dream where I felt that I was going
through several different dimensions. It came in 6 parts and after each
part I felt that I had returned to my body on the bed. At which point I
would either slip back into a dream and realise I was dreaming again or
would feel that a part of me wasn't in my body. For example at one stage
both of my legs were on the bed but one felt like it was up in the air and I
thought I'm not in properly and zoomed out again. The last two in this
series were extremes. The second last I was zooming through space like a
rocket with stars blurring into lines by my relative speed. The final one I
was in my bedroom trying to go through the ceiling and not being able to. I
started banging on it and found myself back in my body on the bed. I'm
still not sure if the intervals between the parts where I thought I was back
in my physical body was physical reality or dream reality.
Sometimes I also fly through roofs into nothing, a void. I think it might
be the same void that is in me when I'm in meditation. In lucid dreaming I
am in it and that experience is alway amazing. I take deep breaths that
seem to last and last. I feel ecstatic both during and after the
experience. Sometimes the high lasts for several days.
I think that the astral techniques produced results this time because my
attitude was right. The elements of this attitude were 1. The belief that
it could be done 2. The strong intention to do it 3. Consistently doing the
various techniques several times a day. 4. Strong focus on doing it which
included reading everything I could find. I was also doing a module on
dream interpretation for the course I am studying. This is a link to a
newletter on Lucid dreaming http://www.sawka.com/spiritwatch/tableof.htm
I think it's very interesting!
Regards,
Julie.
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