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Recieved: 2003/06/30 18:16
Subject: [K-list] Enlightenment today? Gone tomorrow
From: elargonauto

        Hola!


Of those who are Enlightened, from the start of the Kundalini to the
Enlightenment, how long did it take?

   I thik you can be enlightened and THEN start the kundalini. I mean, get
the meaning of the universe and then, because of that, trigger the kundalini
process of absolute cleaning of karma.

   It is like the experience of Ramana Maharshi. He was enlightened suddenly
at the age of 16. And it took two or three years to stabilize at that state.
He spent doing deep medition (near catatonia) long periods of that time.

        In other words I think you can be elightened without harmony but if you
tends towards harmony then you tends towards elightement.

How long is a piece of string answers don't really help. I need to attach
to numbers. Gopi Krishna took years and years, where others were much
quicker, probably because of previous life work.

      I repeat what I wrote before. I think it is different to be at
wonderfull health and harmony to be enlightened.

       I think in this example if you were elightened I don´t think you
would care too much when your kundalini process would end.

I'm also wondering once the Kundalini process starts whether a path is
necessary any longer. Once you've found the path, the path has found you.
You don't walk the path, rather the path walks you.


        Personally what triggered my kundalini was just being. There are
some philosohers like Jean Klein or Eric Baret that defend the no-path. I
agree with them.

Also does the Kundalini process accelerate as it rises. This is from
experience, i'm experiencing rapid increases in flow. The higher it rises,
the more there is.

        The way to completitude need to fit ALL the parts of your body &
mind. So I guess there will be a moment at the end when everyithing start
going well again that things will get faster.

I feel impatient for the natural process to come to an end, does anyone else
want this? I'm not interested in the fireworks, I want to see the grand
finale and the curtain close.

          It is a paradox, but precesely the trick is in enjoying the
journey. :)). The example of elightened people for Chuang-Tse were artisans.
It could be the end of the path is just to be all right. Nothing else.

           I think it depends on the potential of the person too. But of
course, there can be great fireworks. :))


                          elargonauto.

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