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Recieved: 2003/06/17 11:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Satguru Sri Sadhu Aum's advice on overcoming sleep
From: Ron Henshall

> Do others read, or understand the meaning to be the same?

I agree but with a subtle variation:

You say: "The awareness or consciousness is moved from the waking state
through to the
> sleep state.." and " In other words, body consciousness is no longer where
the awareness resides.."

I would put it the other way round, i.e. the waking state and the sleeping
state move through awareness;
and that the body consciousness no longer abides in awareness.

You might feel this nit picking but this is my experience of the process.
Awareness doesn't move.

with Love

Ron


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From: "Rick Mayweather" <rick_mayweather AT_NOSPAM hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] Satguru Sri Sadhu Aum's advice on overcoming sleep
during self-enquiry


> **please remember to delete most of email you are responding to, before
posting your comments to the list.**
>
>
> Waking and dream states are both illusion although both appear real at the
> time. When we're awake, we believe this is the only reality and when
we're
> asleep, we believe that sleep is the only reality.
>
> The awareness or consciousness is moved from the waking state through to
the
> sleep state, in which I believe lucid dreaming and possibly other things
> happen to the third state, or the only real and true reality whereby we
have
> awareness of Self.
>
> In other words, body consciousness is no longer where the awareness
resides.
> The awareness resides in the Self, then you will be forever aware when
> awake or when asleep. The illusion will be shattered.
>
> So if you feel sleepy and presumably tired, the this is a good sign,
> surrender to it. Sleep. Wake up and continue. This just means that
> awareness is starting to travel onto it's destination. This may well be
why
> we suffer from fatigue, it's just unrecognised that awareness is stuck and
> needs a little kick to move it onto the true and real state. The danger
is
> in the Kundalini is reaching this state where you become tired, and stop
the
> path you've chosen, so your stuck in sleep awareness whilst also awake,
sort
> of like a foot holding 2 doors open and you don't know in which direction
to
> head whilst everything in.
>
> Do others read, or understand the meaning to be the same?


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