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Recieved: 2003/06/17 11:14
Subject: Re: [K-list] Satguru Sri Sadhu Aum's advice on overcoming sleep
From: Rick Mayweather

Waking and dream states are both illusion although both appear real at the
time. When we're awake, we believe this is the only reality and when we're
asleep, we believe that sleep is the only reality.

The awareness or consciousness is moved from the waking state through to the
sleep state, in which I believe lucid dreaming and possibly other things
happen to the third state, or the only real and true reality whereby we have
awareness of Self.

In other words, body consciousness is no longer where the awareness resides.
  The awareness resides in the Self, then you will be forever aware when
awake or when asleep. The illusion will be shattered.

So if you feel sleepy and presumably tired, the this is a good sign,
surrender to it. Sleep. Wake up and continue. This just means that
awareness is starting to travel onto it's destination. This may well be why
we suffer from fatigue, it's just unrecognised that awareness is stuck and
needs a little kick to move it onto the true and real state. The danger is
in the Kundalini is reaching this state where you become tired, and stop the
path you've chosen, so your stuck in sleep awareness whilst also awake, sort
of like a foot holding 2 doors open and you don't know in which direction to
head whilst everything in.

Do others read, or understand the meaning to be the same?


http://www.nonduality.com/shankar1.htm#2

49TH CHAPTER: Attend to 'these' in 'Self-Enquiry'

226: Sleep is one experience, when beginning Self-Enquiry

Fearing (on) 'seeing' the
resulting of sleep during
'self-enquiry',
do not give up
'self-enquiry'-this 'sleep'
(is) one aspect in experience,
that 'is' at the beginning of
'self-enquiry'. Give up
'doubt'.

227: Experience the 'one inner consciousness' appearing between 'sleep' and
'wakefulness'

If sleep 'occurs' (while doing
Self-Enquiry), you 'sleep';
soon after waking up from
sleep,
pointedly enter into the
'Self-awareness' with
enthusiasm-
Again pointedly abiding 'like
in that sleep', (and) waking
up,
Experience the 'one inner
awareness', appearing between
these (two states).

228: Repeatedly & Tirelessly, Approach and Abide in the 'I am' Awareness

As you 'practise', 'staying'
and 'being', in the enjoyment
of this ('I am') awareness
(between the 'waking' and
'deep sleep' states),

the 'sleep' that 'overtook'
(you) before, will 'slip
away'-(and) (you)

without allowing, the
'wakefulness' that 'clutches'
the body-(related)-matter(s),
to (overtake and)spread,

again and again, without the
slightest (trace of)
'tiresomeness', approach (and
abide in)
(the 'I am' awareness).

229: Abide in the 'Waking-Sleep' State of Awareness-Existence

Because 'Awareness' exists,
'this one (state)' is not
'sleep', (and)
Because there is 'absence of
thoughts', it is not 'even
waking'-
Awareness-Existence,
Chit-Sat, Vast Form of Shiva
(is this state),
Without 'leaving' this 'Chit',
'abide' in 'that'.


>From: "hbrost" <hbrost AT_NOSPAM skysearch.com>
>To: <k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org>
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Satguru Sri Sadhu Aum's advice on overcoming sleep
>during self-enquiry
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:06:26 -0600
>
>**please remember to delete most of email you are responding to, before
>posting your comments to the list.**
>
>Dear RK,
>
>When I first started to meditate I never ended the meditation simply
>because
>I couldn't stay awake. But now, after only meditating a few minutes, I
>begin to go into the hypnogogic state. I don't believe this is full
>awareness, so I end the meditation. This could be too, that I am simply
>over-tired these days and need to sleep, I don't know.
>
>I went to the site you listed but couldn't find what you're talking about.
>Could you please give a direct link or where I can find your referenced
>material? Thanks!
>
>Hety
>
>From: "rkshankar" <rkshankar AT_NOSPAM vsnl.net>
>
>Please see the website 'www.nonduality.com/shankar.htm'
>This contains the method to be followed for overcoming sleep during
>self-enquiry
>The method was propounded by Satguru Sri Sadhu Aum
>
>Thanks and kind regards
>RK Shankar

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