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Recieved: 2003/06/11 08:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Sexual Exploitations of Guru's
From: AnneChris
On 2003/06/11 08:39, AnneChris posted thus to the K-list:
Tyrone wrote>
> Call me crazy but there are no hard and fast rules...only conventions.
This is true
My feeling is that we have little free will once K is awakened. We must act
as though we do have though.
To my mind K may lead us to an apparently false guru in order that our own
ego is reduced. You could call it a mixed blessing.
The question of being abused by a Guru is very complex and ultimately the
disciple must look to his/her own wants and needs for the reason for this.
Are we looking to get something from the other? Will having sex with the
Guru take us closer to God? It might do.
One sure way of making progress is surrendering to what is, not looking for
an outcome. If we look for an outcome we are endeavoring to be the doer we
are not surrendered, thus Karma follows the action. no expectation no Karma.
What did we expect from the Guru?
If he did not meet our expectation that's our lesson.
Our expectation was unreal.
Realization is ultimately through the grace of "God" so I will lead us to
the experiences that we need to bring us Home to Truth, some of them are
painful till we realize that we need to be totally surrendered, just let go
of wants needs expectation.
The true guru is not dependant on any exterior happening for his/her
serenity and is unaffected by the ups and downs of life and because of this
he lives life to the full in acceptance of what is. He wouldn't go looking
for sex. If that's the form that this moment takes then he is in harmony
with that but there may or may not be any action on his part life/god will
flow through him with what is appropriate for the highest good of the
disciple.
Incidently; I find that there is tremendous release in not having to be
right, in not having to know. God is not knowable by the egoic mind, even
spiritual knowledge can stand between me and God if I label my self as the
one who knows all about spiritual truths. If knowledge led to realization we
would all be realized now.
My current point of view.
Regards all Chris H
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