To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/05/26 15:09
Subject: Re: [K-list] Ignorance of Kundalini (or an equivalent concept)
From: mundane zen
On 2003/05/26 15:09, mundane zen posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Bhavin et al.,
>In "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones", compiled by Paul Reps, there is an appendix
>called "Centreing" (which is not really directly related to Zen) which
>has a translation of the Vigyan Bhairava composed of 112 verses. Having
>read it, it is clear that the subject matter is Kundalini. BUT THE BOOK
>HAS NO MENTION OF KUNDALINI or even any equivalent/related concept!!!
>Also, it does not even attempt to explain the meaning of the verses.
I got out my copy of the book to refesh my memory about the "Centering"
appendix. Amazingly accurate description of Kundalini, isn't it? In the
paragraph right before the tantra itself, the author says,
"Surely men as inspiritors, known and unknown to the world, have shared a
common uncommon discovery. The Tao of Lao-tse, Nirvana of Buddha, Jehovah
of Moses, the Father of Jesus, the Allah of Mohammed -- all point to the
experience".
Does it matter that the author doesn't use the word "Kundalini"? Isn't it
bad enough that the dogma of the world's organized religions have become so
stuck on words, names, forms, symbols, and rituals that they have lost the
true meaning of spirituality, and have lead millions people into a realm of
utter darkness? Just look at how perverted the message has become, Bin
Laden praising Allah for guiding the planes into the WTC, Christians killing
Muslims, blowing-up their houses, and marking the ruins with the sign of the
cross, people living in constant dread of going to hell rather than basking
in the spirit of love.
The Buddhist way is simply to practice -- to turn-off reasoning and
conceptualizing in order to attain direct spiritual realization. Every
explanation lends itself to misinterpretation and misunderstanding. So why
even try? Just practice.
The meaning of the verses in the appendix ring true to anyone who has had
the experience, but how will someone who hasn't experienced Kundalini
interpret them? Likely in the wrong way. Jesus spoke about spirit in
parables, because there is no way to accurately describe the infinite in
finite terms. The best one can do is point the way by use of analogy and
symbols. Will anyone attain direct spiritual realization by reading a book?
Not likely.
>See for example:
>http://www.iosho.com/TantraWeb/oTantra/VBTv1/chapter07.html#011 where
>the verse discussed is "STOP THE DOORS OF THE SENSES WHEN FEELING THE
>CREEPING OF AN ANT. THEN". It will be clear to any person who is
>familiar with the symptoms of Kundalini activity that "the creeping of
>an ant" is an indication of initialisation of Shakti manifestation,
>therefore it is important to stop and internalise - which is the intent
>of the verse. However, the discussion at that link seems to be a rather
>strange digression from the verse.
I was a bit shocked by the discussion about a woman in Bolivia who literally
leviates four feet off the ground when she meditates. The author claims
"scientists" and "thousands of people" have observed the phenomenon. Do you
believe it? Does it even matter? What do these parlor tricks or mass
hysteria have to do with spiritual realization?
As I said above, lots of people get led astray in a myriad of different
ways. All the major religions have been corrupted by the teachings of the
ego-centric, power hungry, and unenlightened. Since you can tell the verses
of the tantra (creeping of the ant, etc.) are talking about Kundalini,
you've obviously had the direct experience. The world is filled with
distortion and delusion. What can you do except encourage people to
practice, without preconcieved notions of what they will experience, so that
they can attain direct realization? Even that web page ends with the
following quote,
"Try any technique, but stick to it for a few days so that you can feel
whether it is working or not."
It's good advice, but "a few days"? It usually takes a lot longer than
that.
>Discussions of other verses at that site clearly show that there is no
>understanding of Kundalini.
"No understanding" sounds too absolute. You might say, "little" or
"incomplete understanding".
>The text may be useful to some people (perhaps), but it is hardly a
>scholarly
>work in terms of a faithful analysis of this classic Tantra literature.
You were expecting what from a web page? I don't understand why you seem so
shocked and surprised. The true message almost always gets distorted or
lost altogether. This page actually seems better than most. There's no
talk about killing infidels or channeling aliens from Orion.
>I was extremely disappointed with the above book and the above website.
>I would probably also be disappointed with other similar literature or
>media. Again, it is hard to find true teachers and true knowledge.
This is what helps make true realization so wonderful when it finally
occurs.
ken
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