To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/05/14 13:41
Subject: [K-list] RE: Cycling of the Kundalini - Karma Resolution - NOTE
From: Bhavin Desai
On 2003/05/14 13:41, Bhavin Desai posted thus to the K-list:
Mystress Angelique,
OK.
I am ready.
What are the next steps?
Further comments are embedded into your post below.
Bhavin.
NOTE: When I had almost finished this post, my email software crashed
with the following message (which I have never seen before and probably
never again): "The messaging interface has returned an unknown error.
If the problem persists, restart Outlook." I panicked thinking that
several hours of typing had been lost. However, keeping calm, I
rebooted and managed to recover it with only a few additional minor
edits required. Perhaps it was a sign/indication that I should not talk
too much about these things. Perhaps we are fortunate that I recovered
it (since I had decided that I would not type it all again from memory,
even though I could do it). I hope you find it useful/interesting.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <Mystress AT_NOSPAM fire-serpent.org>
> Subject: Re: [K-list] RE: Cycling of the Kundalini - Karma Resolution
>
> Bhavin, I do not need to research your teachers because I have
been
> feeling their energy, and their love for you during this thread. I
know
> them to be very good. Their style is quite different to mine, very
> organized and traditional... but their presence is warm. : ) I did not
say
> so sooner, because I doubted you would believe me. You don't know me,
and
> it would seem like an arrogant statement.
[Bhavin Desai] This is sufficient to clear the way for me to continue.
> Some of what I have written, in this thread and the imperative
message
> to attain Mastery and pass on the lineage, is the message you
requested,
> and you already received the synchronistic confirmation. Reading your
post
> about the licence plate, etc. brought tears to my eyes. :)
Misty-happy.
[Bhavin Desai] It was astonishing to me (and this may be beyond anyone's
reasonable/normal belief), but while waiting to turn right at a junction
today I saw directly in front of me another relevant car licence plate:
"KY52 JJK". This can be read in English as "Kiss - Jai JK", allowing
for some amount of poetic licence/dyslexia/whatever. Jai (or Jay) means
praise or victory. JK is not only Jack, but he is also formally Mr J.K.
Boulton. A reading of "Kiss - Jai Jai Kai" can also be taken, where Kai
(or Kay) means say or tell. A reading of "Kiss - Jack John Kai" can
also be taken, indicating a message from both teachers. The first part
"KY52..." could also be parsed as "Kiss to...". This reminded me that
Sanskrit verses can be read in multiple ways depending on the rhythm,
metre, purpose, time, place, etc.
[Bhavin Desai] Who would believe any of this? I cannot present any
evidence and there was no chance to take a photo for proof. But what
use is proof?
> I told you, that first post in this thread... I kept it in my
outbox
> because it seemed to be too long, and the side comments about
experiential
> knowing Vs. scholarship seemed out of place, but I was not allowed to
> delete any of it, despite coming back to edit it three times. It just
got
> longer... So, I surrendered and posted it.
[Bhavin Desai] Jack used to tell me regularly that the intellect was a
barrier to progress in the higher Yoga practices. Swami Dev Murti Ji at
one point said "You are intelligent", more as a literal fact rather than
as a pampering compliment. Therefore your message was directly
relevant.
> It is a little unusual for me to be so persistent in persuading
> someone
> to let go of blockages, and so patient! The persistence does not come
from
> me.
[Bhavin Desai] This is the adaptation of a teacher's technique for the
purposes of a particular student's personality/character. In my case, I
do not respect people who use force or anger, and I tend to be slow &
steady (a tortoise not a hare). Therefore, although what you yourself
thought was unusual, in terms of patience, it was actually absolutely
necessary for my particular situation and circumstances.
> There is a need for you to open your higher awareness, so that your
> training with them can continue. There is almost an urgency about
this...
> though they respect your free will. There is some issue of timing... I
> don't completely understand what that is about... A student who will
be
> coming to you, and... an almost political influence that you will be
> required to manage? It is not clear, it is not meant to be... thinking
> about it too much would take you out of the moment.
[Bhavin Desai] What are the methods to open the higher awareness? I
don't understand the rest of the paragraph.
[Bhavin Desai] Some background on the urgency and timing, referred to
above, may be of interest to you. A small research & development team
(about 120 people) in a UK bank was bought by a US company in March
2000. I joined that team, which was based in London, in October 2000.
Due to various political/profit problems in the parent company, the
London site was closed down and 100+ people got redundancy, including
me. I still do not have a job even though I have been looking
assiduously (Jack's literary influence; Swami Ji referred to him as
"Shakespeare" due to his High English) for over 6 months. As well as
studying in my technical area which is computer security, I also have
started Tai Chi (although the teacher is too focused on the mechanistic
aspects rather than the Chi aspects), and contributed to various
newsgroups to help/share information. This has also been a good
opportunity to practice Swami Dev Murti Ji's Kundalini Yoga everyday for
at least an hour, and try to set up a related website.
[Bhavin Desai] When I saw Swami Ji in India in December 2000 he asked
"You have no job?" and I explained that I had moved jobs not left my
job. You can see from the previous paragraph that he was referring
ahead. He also asked "Why you leave <company>?" I explained that I
wanted career progression, better opportunities, etc. The question
could also be a forward reference since it turns out that <company> is
interested in recruiting me back to their computer security group (ie
Swami Ji was asking: what was the point of leaving if you are going back
there anyway?). The main problems at present are that: <company> has
merged with another company, there is a freeze on recruitment, about 800
people were made redundant in February this year, etc. Therefore it is
taking a bit of time to get corporate authorisation for recruiting me
specifically for the security group. In general, even getting initial
interviews is difficult at present. It has been a general IT problem in
the UK for the past few months due to the global situation(s).
[Bhavin Desai] My father went to India in January/February and
according to my horoscope there is a high likelihood of a job by
September 2003 followed by about 8 years of a "Golden Period".
[Bhavin Desai] The above information may explain the urgency and
timing, since once I start my new job I may not have the same amount of
time to apply to the practice of Swami Dev Murti Ji's Kundalini Yoga,
and hence the window of opportunity to contact my teachers will have
passed.
> >[Bhavin Desai] If you do then I will be very interested to know what
> >happened and what was discussed. If it is possible then please ask
him
> >for a message to me (that only I would properly understand and which
> >would be meaningless to anyone else) and any
guidance/advice/suggestions
> >on how to proceed.
>
> I'm really not that kind of channeller. I get information,
> impressions,
> emotions and images. Channelling exact words, especially in another
> language... nope. Open your senses, and get the info yourself!
[Bhavin Desai] Jack had strong intuitive powers. I think that I now
have the message in the way that he would have given it, but not in the
precise way that I (unreasonably) expected it to be provided.
> Once you can hear and feel them yourself, you will be trained in
the
> other keys, and synchronicity will bring you additional information. I
get
> the image of a little brown notebook... Jack wrote it. It is for
you...
> but not yet. Two years? You will not get it until you are ready to
> understand what it contains without intellectual analysis distorting
your
> interpretation.
[Bhavin Desai] I look forward to it.
> Your desire for this kind of validation, a secret message, is more
of
> the same blockage. Open your heart, and feel for the resonance of
truth,
> in
> this. Heh, that is a carrot dangling... heart-resonance is the first
key
> to
> learning intuition.
>
> http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/grounding.htm
> http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/heart.htm
> http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/discern.htm
[Bhavin Desai] Thank you, I will have a thorough read of those articles.
> Also... I will encode the energy of the message from your Master,
into
> this email... perhaps another on the list can translate it into words.
All
> I get are fragmented syllables that make no sense to me, Bhava-ji!
[Bhavin Desai] Swami Dev Murti Ji gave me the title Bhav Murti (to
continue the lineage?).
[Bhavin Desai] Some people call me "Swami Ji", but I have never asked
for that privileged title, and I do not encourage its use. The "Ji"
suffix is when referring to another person with respect (similar to
"San" in Japanese, and "Mr" in English).
> I dunno what else to tell you... your Masters want to communicate
with
> you directly, I am an inept vessel for what they have to share...
writing
> that brought tears to my eyes, again!
[Bhavin Desai] I am just an ordinary person. Swami Ji himself said to
me in 1987 "I am no different to you". You may think that it is correct
and valid (having read/heard about similar statements), but the impact
is much greater when it is said in person by a "Great Grand Super
Master" Himalayan Yoga Maha Rishi. I just felt completely blank/empty
and sort of just melted.
[Bhavin Desai] Another time, he asked me if I had any questions. I
usually have at least 20 written down and ready to go!!! However, on
that occasion I could not think of even one and I just stared at him. I
eventually explained the lack of questions to him (and the similarity
with other stories about keen students having no questions when asked in
front of their teacher). He laughed. I asked for more explanation. He
said "when a drop of water falls into the ocean, what question is
remaining?"
[Bhavin Desai] There were extended and intense emotional releases
experienced throughout this message and response. (None of this is
apparent to my wife or two sons, who explicitly are not interested.) I
cried like a little baby for several hours.
Hari Om.
Bhavin.
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