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Recieved: 2003/05/01 11:50
Subject: [K-list] RE: Cycling of the Kundalini - Karma
From: Bhavin Desai


On 2003/05/01 11:50, Bhavin Desai posted thus to the K-list:



My comments are inserted below, automatically prefixed with "[Bhavin
Desai]" by MS Outlook. Snipping is not marked in this post.

> From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <Mystress AT_NOSPAM fire-serpent.org>
> At 01:45 PM 28/04/03, Bhavin Desai wrote:
> > > From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <Mystress AT_NOSPAM fire-serpent.org> At
> > > 02:26 PM 27/04/03, Bhavin Desai wrote:
> >[Bhavin Desai] In summary, I would be interested in a genuine and
> >authentic teacher/master to assist me in Kundalini Yoga.
> Kundalini Yoga is a term trademarked by Yogi Bahan.
[Bhavin Desai] I find it extremely unacceptable that an ordinary phrase
such as "Kundalini Yoga" is trademarked. Perhaps someone will trademark
"Kundalini" or "Yoga"? Many people use "Kundalini Yoga" in the
non-trademark sense. Maybe someone will trademark "Tennis" or
"Football"? Yogi Bhajan is mentioned at www.rickross.com, and some of
YB's other activities I have heard about (from people in or close to his
various groups, ie not external people) are not what one would expect of
a Yoga master. I am dramatically understating the case, research it
yourself if you wish. Last year I actually unsubscribed from the Yogi
Bhajan Kundalini Yoga group at Yahoo because the moderators were
unnecessarily strict and it was over-commercial and designed to sell
books, videos, CDs, etc.

> How do you measure "Genuine and authentic"?
[Bhavin Desai] By "genuine" I mean something that is true to its source,
not something that has been made up for financial or egotistical
purposes. By "authentic" I mean that there is a history of
good/favourable results.

> > > I see... would you like to? It could be arranged, if you are
> > > receptive.
> >[Bhavin Desai] Yes, I would. What are the requirements? Are there
any
> >cautions, risks, or dangers?
>
> Requirements? Receptivity... ask and it shall be given. Donations
> gratefully accepted, also. ;)
> Risks or dangers... it does take some getting used to. Like
someone
> who
> is blind from birth, first learning to see... would not be a good art
> critic. Not too hard to learn discernment. Just takes a little time,
and
> practice.
> Usually, when the extra senses are first opened, some of the
> information can be kind of chaotic... Ghosts wanting your attention,
that
> sort of thing. Generally, my work tends to be gentle. :) Unfolding at
a
> rate you can handle.
>
[Bhavin Desai] I wondered what my teachers would have said about this
opportunity. They were never keen about "shortcuts" and they
recommended in general to avoid the
workgroups/seminars/conferences/retreats that offered special powers,
privileges, or other such promises. I recall that Swami Dev Murti Ji
often has a little poem like "when you are quick, you get the kick".

[Bhavin Desai] I regard Kundalini development as a natural process. One
can "tend to it" to some extent, like gardeners tend to their
flowers/fruit/vegetables, but to force/quicken the process can lead to a
higher probability of undesirable events or situations. For example,
forced garden produce is not as good as naturally tended produce in
terms of quality/aroma/taste, although it may look better on a
superficial level (eg big or shiny fruit).

[Bhavin Desai] There are several sites that explain how to activate
Kundalini, etc, with certain techniques or exercises. There are several
sites which explain in detail (with personal stories) the complications
or problems of accelerated Kundalini development. One can rise quickly
but can also fall quickly/deeply. It could be 10 steps forward and (a
risk of) 15 steps backward.

[Bhavin Desai] I think for the moment, I will read the information on
your various sites first (subject to available time, etc) and then
proceed further as appropriate. Also, I would prefer a physical
presence at least in the first few instances/interactions.

[Bhavin Desai] The Kundalini Yoga of Swami Dev Murti Ji is genuine and
authentic (in my 25+ years experience with this and other systems). It
is also completely safe. Swami Ji tested the system on himself first,
then his family/relatives, then others. Compare this method to the
commercial pharmaceutical companies. The "Crown Jewels" of his system
is a set of "Crocodile Courses" on the back, on the stomach, sitting,
etc. Each course consists of spinal chord exercises that result in self
manipulation/mobilisation/chiropractice. These work on the nadis,
chakras, Kundalini, higher bodies, etc. Neti, Nauli, and other Kriyas
are also included as are Pranayama, etc. This is all summarised in "The
Seven Golden Keys of Swami Dev Murti Ji". When I was with Swami Ji, he
mentioned that there are in fact 108 Golden Keys, but he is releasing
them slowly and only to the right people. I have not seen any similar
system elsewhere, and I have studied many systems.

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