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Recieved: 2003/04/29 09:15
Subject: RE: [K-list] How Much Time to Achieve Self Realisation?
From: Rich
On 2003/04/29 09:15, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
> You are chosen, you cannot choose.
You can choose. Don't resist what comes.
> My personal orientation
> is based upon a Christian upbringing. ALL these people
> gather in churches and contemplate God -- on Sundays. They
> wonder why nothing seems to "appear" for them, why "God" is
> so elusive.
The connection with God is different. The teaching is interlaced with fear.
They think they need to do better instead of seeing they are perfect
already.
This is what the bible teaches. Be a good person and go to heaven. It
doesn't work. Why, heaven is a place in the mind, at least it was for me.
Big dissapointment.
Maybe they don't ask in the same way. Maybe they are closed to the idea of
miracles. Who knows. Some Christian's get it. I can tell from the joy they
carry inside of them.
> Look at the Gospels...Jesus was decidedly
> secretive and almost uninformative to the masses. In fact,
> he shunned the masses, except in very few circumstances.
> Jesus stated many times how God, His "Father," chooses those
> "who are ready." Two thousand years later, Jack, things
> aren't any different, do you think?
This is belief.
> Getting back to my original thought: If all else fails,
> YELL! I did.
It's useful to break the normal rules. Make an impact. If you really believe
whispering will make a difference it can.
There are many icons in my place of residence for people to establish
connections with divinity. Doorways on the outside. Some are more clear than
others. This is useful and supports the culture, however to me it is a
substitute for connection from within.
>I had no clue about Kundalini, but after
> yelling and screaming, hey, it happened!
I just had a hunch, bought the book Serpent Power which didn't mean a lot
but some part of me connected with it... a couple of days later...
something exploded.
In meditation I found a way to release the knot, which seemed to be there
before. Like finding a hole in a bouncy castle filled with air.
Having the system clear to begin with will make an enormous difference on
how K is opened, experienced and handled.
> I simply wanted to know my purpose. I also stated quite
> specifically that I didn't want to come back here one more
> time, ever. I wanted to know what I needed to know to leave
> this place of horror. That's it. That's what I yelled.
Can you encompass the horror and exist with it peacefully?
> And when will I achieve Self Realisation?
When you are ready to give up all desire.
> And why should I want Self Realisation?
You don't until you know what it is. The absense of want.
> And how will I get Self Realisation?
At the market.. 3rd aisle... 2nd stall.
Rich
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