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Recieved: 2003/04/28 10:42
Subject: Re: [K-list] RE: Cycling of the Kundalini - Karma
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2003/04/28 10:42, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 02:26 PM 27/04/03, Bhavin Desai wrote:
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>Angelique,
>
>First a bit of background, to provide context for my response. I have
>practiced Yoga for over 30 years and taught for over 20 years.
That is quite a lot of experience... but it is not sufficient to awaken
your gifts?
> I have
>had Kundalini activity for about 20 years, initially mild, but now
>medium (relative to other members' reports on this list). However, none
>of the latent natural powers have yet been activated, as I have
>mentioned previously. In particular, I cannot perceive anything beyond
>the five senses, such as auras, prana, nadis, chakras, kundalini, higher
>bodies, karma, dharma, etc. Therefore I do not have the advantages that
>you clearly possess in this respect.
I see... would you like to? It could be arranged, if you are receptive.
>In the realm of Kundalini, which the Upanishads state covers the three
>worlds (waking, dreaming, sleeping) and beyond, everything is also
>energy. Some people use the term "vibration" in an equivalent sense.
>Therefore auras, prana, nadis, chakras, kundalini, higher bodies, karma,
>and dharma can also be regarded as energy. However, on a practical
>level they are different and have different properties.
Yes, of course.
>Karma is probably like an axiom in mathematics in the sense that there
>is no further analysis required -- it is a fundamental law of the
>universe. It does not require justification or elaboration. It is "The
>Law". Karma is a database of actions/reactions that is held in the
>higher bodies.
Information energy... as I described.
> Note that a database is static not active. In particular it does not flow.
Yes, it can. It does not flow in the way that life energy, prana or
Shakti may flow, because it is blockages, they are different like ice and
water... but karma follows responsibility. The hierarchies of chela=Guru
allow for the karma of the Chela to flow to the Guru, to be resolved. In
putting their life into the Guru's hands, the Chela passes responsibility
to the Guru, and the karma follows. The Boddhisattva idea is for an
advanced soul to keep incarnating and taking on karma and resolving it
within themselves. This could not happen unless there was some way of
moving the database around. The database can be transferred, shared,
updated... deleted.
Beyond the Yoga paradigms, there is the Christian idea of Christ taking
on the sins of the world... and even in Wicca there is a clear knowledge
that the reaction of the actions of a first degree initiate will travel to
their teacher, until the higher degrees are attained and the mastery is
their own.
Using your computer database analogy, databases can be shared, sent
over the web, handed around on a CD, etc. Responsibility for maintenance or
management of the database can be transferred.
Find a blockage. Look within it, and the information about the karmic
nature of the blockage can be revealed. The blockage gathers around the
karmic seed, just as a pearl grows from calcium building around a grain of
sand, in an oyster. Generally, the information about the seed, is not
needed to release the blockage. Wanting to know can be an attachment.
Sometimes karma takes the form of a distortion of the natural patterns of
whatever energy body holds it, and these distortions can be released,
repaired.
>I don't know about the low level details of karma such as how/why/where
>it is stored. I also don't know about the resolution/releasing of
>karma, nor the mechanisms or procedures involved.
I do. There are many...
>When suitable circumstances become available then various actions
>performed by an individual are appropriately resolved with respect to
>the database of karmas.
yes... that is the slow, and natural way of karma unfolding, but...
> Old karmas may be "written off" partially or
>completely, and new karmas may be created.
Yes, they can be released, surrendered, burnt away, given away, etc...
and new actions or attachments can create new ones.
> These events are all stored
>as records in the karma database. The aim of Karma Yoga is to reduce
>the number of records, both good and bad, in the database, in order to
>achieve liberation, Moksha, Nirvana, Samadhi, etc.
Yes, we are speaking of the same thing... except I am telling you that
the database is not mysterious, it shows itself as blockages, patterns and
distortions in the energy bodies, and can be cleared from that perspective.
When it is all cleared, liberation is automatic. Karma, is energy that does
not flow, in that it takes the form of blockages that interfere with the
natural flow of life energy within the body, prana, chi, Shakti, etc. Like
a river that is frozen, it does not flow... but one can take the ice from
the river in chunks, or apply a blowtorch, or... wait for spring!! Glaciers
flow, but slowly.
I have defined karma yoga as the charitable act of taking on another's
karma and clearing it from within yourself. Random acts of kindness. If one
is empathic, the taking on part happens quite automatically, and learning
how to clear it from yourself is essential for sanity and survival. Empathy
is a natural side effect of the heart chakra opening, but usually also is
related to projections.
The thread about sensitivity has come up again, for the zillionth time
on this list, but having described how to handle it so many times, I don't
feel like explaining it again. Lots of references in the archives, and on
my websites.
>Energy healers work on various types of Prana/Chi. Not (necessarily) on
>karma.
It depends. Many simple types of energy healing, like Reiki,
therapeautic touch, chi gong, etc. do just work on Chi... but other types,
like empathic healing and etheric body repair, work on Karma.
> The activities that you describe may be working on Prana/Chi
>(which are flowing types of energy) rather than karma (which is more
>like a static database).
: ) So very cynical. Many list members have experienced me taking on
their karma and resolving it within myself. They can post to describe their
experiences, if they choose.
With Tantric unity, two become one. Your database becomes my database,
and I can edit it. My Shakti becomes your Shakti, and you are lifted.
Synchronous events occur.
> High Masters can take on the responsibilities
>of someone else's karma.
Then I am a High Master. Mystress. ;) If that is how you define one. I
have been doing this for years... although I do less now than I used to.
> Grand Master Swami Dev Murti Ji states that he
>has the techniques to help "burn" your karma. It is a painful procedure
>that I have personally experienced.
He is burning it up within you, not taking it on and burning it within
himself. It does not have to be painful, it can be quite ecstatic. Depends
on how much is to be resolved, and how readily you surrender.
>I have explained my understanding of karma, but since I am not a Master,
>I am open to other unified theories, such as regarding karma as a type
>of energy.
OK.
> [If you are aware of the concepts of unification and
>polymorphism in mathematical type theory then that is quite close in
>this instance.]
I'm not a mathematician. I could look them, up, I suppose...
>In conclusion, I think the various aspects such as auras, prana, nadis,
>chakras, kundalini, higher bodies, karma, dharma, etc, etc should be
>distinguished in their various attributes and properties even though
>they may all be different types of energy.
I can agree with that. Blessings!
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