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Recieved: 2003/04/25 21:47
Subject: [K-list] RE: OM Mani Padme Hum
From: Bhavin Desai
On 2003/04/25 21:47, Bhavin Desai posted thus to the K-list:
Eki,
The entry for "om" that you posted is excellent. However, there is no
mention of Shudras (shuudras), the fourth (servile) caste. Therefore,
no further resolution is required. But where did you get the idea that
Shudras were involved anyway???
However, be careful when having discussions with Sanskrit scholars and
Pundits. They can be very strict about precision.
Bhavin.
> -----Original Message-----
> Bhavin Desai writes:
>
>
> <<Eki,
>
> Your comment below is seriously limited to only Shudras.
> "Aum" (alternatively transliterated as "Om") is a sacred word of
Sanatan
> Dharma, a term which covers Hinduism and others.
>
> I expect that Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon has further errors.>>
>
> Bhavin.
>
>
> > From: "Shivling N. Kundalyog" <ekiheik AT_NOSPAM dwp.net>
> >
> > <<I'm curious how people interpret the mantra, "OM Mani Padme Hum".
> I've
> > also
> > noticed it's spelt Aum instead of OM, any difference?>>
> >
> > According to Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon,
> > "aum" it the sacred syllable (setu?) of shuudras, the
> > fourth (servile) caste.
> >
>
> Here's the separate entry for "om" from CDSL (which is
> based for the most part on Monier-Williams):
>
>
> o4m
> Entry om
> Meaning ind. (%{av} Un2. i , 141 ; originally %{oM} = %{AM} , which
may
> be derived from %{A} BRD.) , a word of solemn
> affirmation and respectful assent , sometimes translated by
> AT_NOSPAM " yes , verily , so be it "' (and in this sense compared with Amen ;
> it is placed at the commencement of most Hindu1 works , and as
> a sacred exclamation may be uttered [but not so as to be heard by
> ears profane] at the beginning and end of a reading of the Vedas
> or previously to any prayer ; it is also regarded as a particle of
> auspicious salutation [Hail!] ; %{om} appears first in the
> Upanishads as a mystic monosyllable , and is there set forth as
> the object of profound religious meditation , the highest spiritual
> efficacy being attributed not only to the whole word but also to
> the three sounds %{a} , %{u} , %{m} , of which it consists ;
> in later times %{om} is the mystic name for the Hindu1 triad ,
> and represents the union of the three gods , viz. a (Vishn2u) ,
> %{u} (S3iva) , %{m} (Brahma1) ; it may also be typical of the
> three Vedas ; %{om} is usually called %{praNava} , more
> rarely %{akSara} , or %{ekAkSara} , and only in later times
> %{oMkAra}) VS. S3Br. ChUp. &c. ; (Buddhists place %{om}
> at the beginning of their %{vidyA AT_NOSPAM SaDakSarI} or mystical
> formulary in six syllables [viz. %{om AT_NOSPAM maNi AT_NOSPAM padme AT_NOSPAM hUM}] ;
> according to T. %{om} may be used in the following senses:
> %{praNave} , %{Arambhe} , %{svIkAre} , %{anumatau} ,
> %{apA7kRtau} , %{asvIkAre} , %{maGgale} , %{zubhe} ,
> %{jJeye} , %{brahmaNi} ; with preceding %{a} or %{A} ,
> the %{o} of %{om} does not form Vr2iddhi (%{au}) , but
> Gun2a (%{o}) Pa1n2. 6-1 , 95.)
>
> --------
>
> I don't know Sanskrit enough to be able to conclude
> whether that's erroneous or not. If anybody wants me to,
> I might try to simplify the entry by removing some of
> the control characters and simplifying the transliteration.
>
> eki
>
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