To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/04/19 19:19
Subject: Re: [K-list] Evil/Flames
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2003/04/19 19:19, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
Hello, Danijel...
At 10:29 AM 19/04/03, Danijel Turina wrote:
>:)) That is a very creative way of interpreting reality. But you see,
>with your ...creative... interpretation, you will certainly find a
>similar reasoning to explain why El left the list with a big "fuck
>you all", in her time.
Ah, El. A beautiful being, who could not see perfection, and it killed
her... I love her, I grieve for her, miss her and am a little angry with
her... part of the orbit of grief.
She left temporarily, but was subscribed to the list, as a lurker when
she died. She loved the list very much, and took pride in her part of its
conception.
Using her past words to validate your position is... I would think it
was beneath you, but apparently not.
Are you OK, Danijel? Really OK? Your recent postings illustrate a
paradigm shift that ... hmmm...
<shrug> From past experience, I am certain you do not want to know how
it appears to me... so... I'll not.
> Simply, this list functions in a certain
>spectrum - if you are either above it, or below it, you sooner or
>later see that you don't belong here.
This list has changed a lot, since those days...
Apparently you feel you are above it, you have often wrote that you
feel you do not belong here. I am puzzled at your reappearance. Why are
you here, Danijel?
Sure, you are welcome but you seem to end up dissing the list with
every reappearance... and you usually claim to be too busy for this kind of
stuff... did you get bored, or lonely, or what? My question is sincere.
I do concur with Hillary about the predictability of your behavior. You
did manage to be polite for longer this time, which I appreciate. Thanks! : )
>Those, who feel comfortable
>here for a longer period of time, should ask themselves what is wrong
>with them, and why are they so spiritually stagnant.
Heh. Sour grapes? ;)
To apply your idea, what do you think is wrong with you, that you keep
returning? I don't see anything wrong with the list or your wanting to
participate in it, but your reappearance puzzles me, given your stated
outlook.
I know, there is your martyr misunderstood teacher thing of pearls
before swine and all that... but what is it you are really wanting here?
>This list can seem to be attractive, to a superficial observer -
>people seem to be generally nice, lots of spiritual lingo etc, but it
>soon reveals itself for what it really is - and I really don't want
>to get into that, except for this: here, people aren't interested in
>the truth, at all. The only thing they care about, is themselves.
People are not interested in accepting *your* truth... which seems to
frustrate you repeatedly.
Caring about themselves, I see as positive. Have to love yourself first,
after all... Those who think they are not self centered, are usually in
denial of their real motives.
>That is what irritates me, because I instinctively expect the truth
>to be of paramount importance to everybody. Here, even the concept of
>truth is relativized into nonexistence,
Yes. Perfect. Delightful, that...Truth is relative, generally
subjective. At least, the truths that can be adequately described, in words
via email. I appreciate that most members realize this, and the list
environment has become relatively free of members trying to coerce other
members into accepting their personal viewpoints. Pleases me greatly. This
list is a really beautiful place.
>sacrificed at the altar of
>self-importance; oh, pardon me, Self-Importance.
:) whose self importance, o great teacher come to enlighten us all? :) ;)
>I might again decide to post here, or to look at the recent messages.
Undoubtedly.
>However, even this time it was a very unlikely event.
You said that, last time you departed in a huff because people did not
agree with you... :)
>I made several comments,
39 posts in 5 days... that must be some kind of record...
>pointed to useful information, and if anyone wants it, they can have it.
And if they don't want it then they must be stupid self absorbed
unspiritual ... etc. etc.. ? <shrug>
Love you Danijel... Don't agree with you, don't want to argue with you,
love you better from a distance, but love you very much, all the same.
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