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Recieved: 2003/04/17 22:18
Subject: Re: [K-list] Evil
From: Danijel Turina
On 2003/04/17 22:18, Danijel Turina posted thus to the K-list:
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At 16:25 17.4.2003 -0400, admin AT_NOSPAM shalom-retreats.ca wrote:
>>First, there exists the absolute good, and it is God.
>
>This is a good point. It is, the crux of the matter.
>
>OK. I will begin by assuming that what you say is true. Then I have
>a question for you and it is, "How can we know what the goodness of
>God is?"
Nothing but direct personal experience will help you there, I'm
afraid... however, you can look at it this way: either there is the
absolute good, or everything is relative. You can feel, within,
somewhere, some feeling of ease or tension, that tells you when
something is OK, and if something is wrong. Now, try to follow this
feeling, follow it to its source, isolate it. See what it is made of.
Follow the white rabbit. :)
>If you tell me to look to the Bible or other sacred writings, I will
>point to the inconsistencies and examples of where God is anything
>but good.
If you seek inconsistencies, you will most certainly find them.
However, assume I'm right. Then take a holy scripture - not the
Qur'an or the Old Testament of the Bible - they're crap. Take the
gospels, or Bhagavad-gita. Then, you read them from the position that
they are true (otherwise you will close to the message and reject it
in advance). Feel how it resonates with you, feel the inner feeling
of harmony.
>If
>you tell me that we, as mere mortals, cannot know of the goodness of
>God then what's the point?
Who told you we can't? Maybe you cannot know now, but you can at
least have faith and believe. Faith opens you up to experience. One
of the first times in my life I showed real faith and devotion, I had
such a strong vision of God, that it had to stop before evaporating
me. But without faith, without confidence and devotion, you can only
remain bitter and cynical.
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