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Recieved: 2003/04/17 21:14
Subject: Re: [K-list] Evil
From: Danijel Turina
On 2003/04/17 21:14, Danijel Turina posted thus to the K-list:
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At 15:03 16.4.2003 EDT, Druout AT_NOSPAM aol.com wrote:
>:)) I thought you see only love. :)
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>*****
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>Dear Danijel,
>
>Of course! LOL! The difficulty is that one can't see it if one
>follows only logic. K reality doesn't go there. However, once one
>experiences mystically that ultimately there can be no evil, then
>one can see that it is
>presumptuous to think we know what would seem logically to
>constitute evil.
I have a really bad problem with this theory. From this, it follows
that people with awakened Kundalini are supposed to be the incoherent
raving lunatics. And indeed, I surely can think of several examples.
;) However...
We should agree whether clarity of tought be a positive spiritual
quality. If not, then all spiritual people should be the demented
idiots unable to focus their thoughts enough to write two sentences
that don't contradict each other. If clarity of thought, however, be
a quality of enlightened spirit, then we should expect the
enlightened people to be able to think clearly, eventually, when the
turmoil in the energetic bodies clears, and to express their thoughts
in a coherent and clear manner. I fail to see how logical consistency
of my writing would diminish the spiritual quality of that which I
have to say; in fact, I think it can only help introduce better
understanding.
Regarding the mystical experience, it very seldom maps into this
world. In fact, in mystical experience, one often experiences a
higher reality, a higher plane of existence. There, evil indeed
doesn't exist. However, the fact that it doesn't exist there, doesn't
mean that it doesn't exist here. Also, the fact that evil doesn't
exist in eternity, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist in time.
It looks like some people are afraid to even acknowledge the
existence of evil, as if I asked them to embrace it, or something
similar. To me, it is similar to the situation in which one would
observe that the kitchen is on fire, and run away from it, instead of
trying to extinguish it.
Again, regarding the mind. There is a common misconception about the
mind in the matters of spirit, saying that it is more of an obstacle
than help. Yes, the mind can indeed get in the way, and it is mostly
useless as an instrument of perception. However, it is extremely
useful as an instrument of communication, for without a clear and
functional mind, one cannot hope to ever leave a trace of his
spiritual experience on the physical plane. Without the mind, the
spirituality simply cannot get a foothold in the physical, for there
are then no explanations for the experience, there is no worldview to
map the experience into, there is no system to explain it all, and
many good people thought they were crazy simply because there was
nobody around to give them knowledge and introduce clarity into their
minds. If the mind doesn't provide support, the spiritual experience
doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.
As for Kundalini and mind, I can assure you that they can go along
very well, if the mind is in service of the Spirit, instead of trying
to make it the other way around. :) And it can be turned off, at will
- - the logical consistency, I mean. I am known to write rather good
poetry. ;)
>In any case, don't ask a Gemini to be consistent! :))
;)) Did you, by some chance, notice from my date of birth, on my
website, that I, too, am Gemini? ;))
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