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Recieved: 2003/04/16 16:55
Subject: Re: [K-list] All manifestation from within God proceeds through
From: mundane zen


On 2003/04/16 16:55, mundane zen posted thus to the K-list:



Dear RK et al.,


>>that Jesus, being all-knowing, must have been able to write in
>>Pascal, too I don't think that even God knows what will come out of
>>things, in the end.

>God manifests everything from within. He knows all. Jesus is the
>first-born of God. All manifestation must necessarily pass first
>through Jesus. And, Jesus pervades all creation. Undoubtedly, Pascal
>manifested from within God through Jesus


I think one needs to be careful in the way this is interpreted. Jesus said,
"I and the Father are one" because he was speaking directly from spirit, and
I interpret, "No one comes to the Father except thru me" as no one comes to
God without that same realization of oneness.

However, if you get stuck on the symbols, Jesus the man, the name Jesus, or
even a subtle image Jesus on the cross in your head, you commit the sin of
idolatry. You fall short of the direct experience of Spirit, which is your
essential Self, everyone's essential Self -- sat, chit, ananda -- being,
consciousness, and bliss.

Could Jesus the man write Pascal code? Obviously not. However, because of
his oneness with spirit, he'd probably be able to learn it quickly and be a
great programmer. It's like that article that Rich posted about "A Mind
Like Water" or "Zen and the Art of Archery". You the ego don't perform the
act. You let spirit do it thru you. If you let the Buddha shoot the arrow
it will always hit the mark.
>Eucharistic miracles occurring in USA and some Asian countries even in
>this modern age bear witness to the all-pervading nature and Power of
>Jesus


I'm always skeptical about miracle stories. Good magicians have shown how
easy it is to fool people. Didn't Jesus say, "Except that you see signs and
wonders you will not believe", and "Only a wicked and adulterous generation
seeks a sign"? To me the key is self-realization. Like the proverb says,
"Be still and know".


ken

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