To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/04/15 21:35
Subject: Re: [K-list] re: evil
From: hbrost
On 2003/04/15 21:35, hbrost posted thus to the K-list:
At 14:28 15.4.2003 -0600, hbrost wrote:
>We, as human beings, cannot
>"create" more than what already exists.
I would very much doubt that my laptop existed before a human
"created" it. :)
Hety: Well, I will have to differ with you. What is the laptop made of?
First, an idea. Then take it from there...what already exists in and on
this Earthly plane. And from where does thought come? ;-) I believe that
all thoughts already exist. Just given a different "spin?"
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>second-by-second basis. But choose to focus on them, well...doesn't
>that take your energy away from Love, as Jason points out?
If you observe evil and you help, did it take your energy away from
love, or did you manifest love? If you ignore evil and fail to help,
did you in fact love, or did you manifest indifference?
Hety: That's not the point of what I questioned. I personally believe the
word "desire" needs to come into play. No desire, no manifestation.
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>>And what you need to hide from, rules you.
>
>Hety: No, not necessarily. Doubt Jason is hiding from anything.
>Was Jesus hiding from what was "ruling" Him? He was a human being.
I don't see where Jesus negated the existence of evil. In fact, I can
remember at least 20 places where he attacked it bitterly.
Hety: That's not the point. Jesus certainly did _not_ negate evil, but
then we would need to interpret the interpretations of the interpretations
of what Jesus really did or did not do. I asked if Jesus was hiding from
what was "ruling" him, as you alluded to in your previous post to Lori.
>From what I know in my heart, I say it clearly: I doubt Jesus was hiding
from evil. Or as you stated previously, what could have been "ruling" him.
>If people were more noble and
>Divine, they would not let the spiritual midgets such as Saddam or
>Bush order them around, they would elect some spiritual lighthouse
>for a leader, as they do in Vatican
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>
>Hety: Ahemmmmm.....the VATICAN? ...... Just checking!
Yup, Vatican. They do elect the Pope, you know, and he is the head of
state. A very important state.
Hety: Again...THE VATICAN? ;-)
>While I stated that All Things exist, isn't it possible that this
>thing we call the Ego is trying to triumph over God/dess and
>attempting to reign supreme?
In some cases, yes. In other cases, ego might explore ways in which
to love God.
Hety: How? When?
>And in doing so, prevents most people from knowing what really
>exists inside of themselves?
In other cases, it might prevent them from seeing _outside_ of
themselves. ;)
Hety: Yes, agree!
>I believe, Danijel, that the devil is us! ;-)
Naah, not me, didn't get promoted yet. :)
Hety: You're tough! ;-)
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