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Recieved: 2003/04/03 14:18
Subject: RE: [K-list] What God do we believe in?
From: Rich
On 2003/04/03 14:18, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
> > See, it's like the computer game. Surrender is not an
> option to a warrior.
Interesting comparison. In my idea, surrender is really the opposite to
defeat (or victory). Breaking this for a warrior would be breaking their
identity or concept of self.
I found it quite moving to see in the film Hero that the 'hero' considered
peace or non-violence as the greatest learning for a warrior. In the film,
this was something that was very difficult for the warrior to grasp but in
the end they _realised_ it. No longer to _be_ the warrior. Winning by not
participating in the game.
I consider about internal and external surrender. To me, internal surrender
seems to make for being more effective and powerful (by that I mean able to
choose the course of their life) externally. Whether that is done inline
with spirit or not is a different question. Motivational speakers will tell
us we can have what we want. Heart guidance may tell us that this approach
is ego orientated and may cause difficulties down the line.
Acceptance is like letting something be and freeing up judgements of that,
but surrender is discarding it and sending it back to the universe or
creator of where it came.
So outer surrender is perhaps not quite the same as the inner surrender to
K. aka letting go, giving up, giving back etc.. In inner surrender there is
no longer the care or concern about any aspect of the thing. Going back to
emptiness or seeing the illusion in what was thought real.
External surrender changes my self and concequently my life to a more
diminished one. Changing my priorities, changing my concept of self and
causing me to loose power and purpose. Internal surrender is regaining those
things which I believed I wasn't.
> Of course, the warrior always wants to win. But what does he
> want to win for?
Perhaps Pride and/or Honour. A lot of films I've seen portray this view.
Does anyone know a real warrior in this day and age? Perhaps the fighters
and army in Iraq but I don't think even they fit the mystical idea of a
trained and accomplished warrior or begone ages.
Perhaps a winner of a seemingly real game in a seemingly real reality.
Rich
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