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Recieved: 2003/03/04 22:20
Subject: [K-list] Can I call a spade a shovel?
From: Bhavin Desai

On 2003/03/04 22:20, Bhavin Desai posted thus to the K-list:

The following article appears to show the equivalence (albeit grudgingly) of Kundalini and Toronto Blessing:

The following article appears to show the equivalence (albeit grudgingly) of Kundalini and Toronto Blessing:
    Comparison Between the Kundalini Practice and the so-called Toronto Blessing

http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~ahuima/toronto/kundalini.html
I give a brief abstract for your reference:
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The occult practice of Kundalini [energy] and the Toronto Blessing experience are compared. It is disturbing (sic) to note how the at least 1000-years old Kundalini and the contemporary Toronto movement are almost identical in at least the following aspects:

    both involve the very same bodily manifestations.

    both are distributed in the very same way, namely by a touch or by some other method from one already AT_NOSPAM AT_NOSPAM in fire'', the phenomena being very contagious.

    the reason for the bodily manifestations is explained in the both to be the very same. Also the genuinity of the experience is based on identical proofs.

    both require the same initial mental etc. conditions for one receiving the power

    both consider the transfer of the power to be a central issue and subject to scientific considerations

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The following article describes several Kundalini-equivalent systems in a more balanced manner:
    Kundalini and Sahaja (Spontaneous )Yoga

    http://www.yrec.org/sahaja.html
Does anyone have first-hand (or very close second-hand) experience of the Toronto Blessing or other Kundalini-equivalent systems? Is the issue just of names and labels? Can I call a spade a shovel?
Jack.

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