To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/03/02 13:34
Subject: Re: [K-list] ... By the way, little angry KEN, read this.
From: mundane zen
On 2003/03/02 13:34, mundane zen posted thus to the K-list:
Dear OMA,
>Now on to little angry Ken.
Angry? No. Little? No, I'm 6'3" 205 lbs. Wrong on both counts.
>Something very human wants to speak with you. Look, I don't give a
>shit about your opinion or your beliefs.
And the point is? Is your caring about my opinion a prerequisite for
replying to a post?
>You don't have to care about mine, but I really don't give a SHIT >about
>yours.
Then why are you responding?
>And also, there's a difference between jerking back(like when someone
>pops around a corner and shouts "BOO", you jump.) when you get burned, >and
>instinct.
Sure, strictly speaking, those are autonomic responses. The fear of heights
is more properly called an instinct. Yet, both are hard-wired. Free will
doesn't play any role whatsoever. Even this angry reply of yours is mere
stimulus (my last post) and response. So, it's questionable as to what
degree of free will was involved, if any.
>You can go along, scurrying around on the floor of life, believing we
>were a puddle of piss before we evolved into fish, amphibians,
>reptiles, monkeys, then humans, I don't care.
This is an irrational strawman attack. I'm sure a debate on evolution is
off-topic, so I won't get into it. Suffice it to say that the process of
evolution is an observed fact (in bacteria, fish, lizards, moths, etc.), and
that the Theory of Evolution is backed-up by solid evidence from the fossil
record, genetics, etc.
Whether you care or not is irrelevant. If you post your prattle on the
list, you run the risk of getting a response. So get over it.
>I wasn't about to respond to you if you went on about the big bang,
>but when you do it to me just because I believe in God and not some
>huge rock that came out of nowhere, I have a problem with that.
So here's more strawman crap with this "big rock out of nowhere". I don't
begrudge you your beliefs, but if you go around acting like a arrogant
know-it-all, misrepresenting science, using circular logic, and spewing
little nothings about thought arising from motivation and free will, then
you can expect to be called on it.
>My opinion's are open for discussion, not for argument.
Who are you to dictate terms?
>Let's make a deal too. You don't say shit to me and I won't say shit
>to you.
You've already broken the deal before it began.
>Before you ever give me your opinion again, stop and ask me if I give
>a shit.
No.
ken
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