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Recieved: 2003/03/02 00:55
Subject: Re: [K-list] where does thought originate from?)))...Everyone's
From: mundane zen
On 2003/03/02 00:55, mundane zen posted thus to the K-list:
>From: One Man Alone <one_odd_stranger AT_NOSPAM yahoo.com>
>Interesting, but I, One Man Alone, don't think so. The old theory
>of "thought is language" is certainly convincing, but it's wrong. God
>gave us will, and thought is whatever we want.
What's the point with this invoking the name of "God"? It's a logical
fallacy, the ultimate appeal to authority. Your argument contains no
substance, no facts, no causal chain to explain the origin of thought.
Since the universe evolved from a singularity during the big bang, and has
evolved from there, free will itself is arguably an illusion.
>The thing that separates us from animals is NOT language and
>intelligence, it's personality.
The thing that separates us from animals and the wholeness that is the
universe is the predilection of our rational mind to separate and categorize
things and to label them with words.
>The souls we have are us, and we make our choices by what we want, not
>out of instinct.
Touch a hot stove, lean over the railing at the top of the empire state
building, and then tell me you don't make choices based on instinct.
>Our personality is forged from our experiences as we grow up. A
>child's personality is to have fun. A teenager's personality is to be
>bored and depressed, although I'm a more advanced 17 year old. Sex is
>actually the thing I think about the least...
Non-sequitur and irrelevant digression.
>Wisdom changes us, intelligence teaches us, language helps us EXPRESS
>our thoughts, but at the top of the list, it's our SOULS, US, OUR
>WILL, that thinks.
This speaks to the possible motivation and impetus for thought, not to it's
evolution or actual mechanism.
>Well, overall this has gone through more than just the >thought/language
>theory, but I hope I've been helpful. One more thing,
>I'm always right about everything I say(this included), and sheer
>intelligence and reasonable thought is what says I'm right.
Hahahahaha. Give me a fucking break.
>Put 2 and 2 together. We have souls, our souls is our essence and us,
>thus our souls produce thoughts. Our brains are just for our body's sake.
>The brain is a remote control for our bodies.
Well, so the dualist THEORY goes.
>You know, the third eye(pineal gland in the center of our brains),
>also known as the "Seat Of The Soul", it's our work station.
This idea that the pineal gland is the "Seat of the Soul" was proposed by
Descartes around 1700. To cling to that atavistic notion in this day and
age is frankly absurd.
ken
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